completly restored by who? Thanks for any additional info!!Yes, the "Mysterious Island" Technicolor copy was found around 2014 and has since been completely restored.
completly restored by who? Thanks for any additional info!!Yes, the "Mysterious Island" Technicolor copy was found around 2014 and has since been completely restored.
No, you're the one saying the bi-pack is a single strip of film. In fact, it's two separate strips of film sandwiched together running through the camera. Total, three strips of film.Mr. Krupp: ... According to your logic, the bi-pack is a single strip of film, so only two strips of film run through a three-strip Technicolor camera, which means three-strip Technicolor should actually be called two-strip Technicolor.
The old phrase "Celluloid never waits"is too true, and inaction on the part of the studios leads to only heartach!! Some are fighting a good fight and trying to do "search and resuce" but the odds are agianst them, time...combined with many studios not taking stock of what titles they actually have in thier archives and in what condition are they, contributes to the issue?AMEN! I've been beefing about this practice on various boards for a while.
When a term gets repeated long enough and often enough, by enough people, it becomes the De facto term, so whether we agree on this detail or not, I think the term two-strip is here to stay. If nothing else, it helps most people (who don't care about these technical details) to distinguish the early Technicolor films from the glorious three-strip films.
Mr. Krupp: I respect your knowledge of Technicolor and your opinions, but just for fun, I'm going to get super nit-picky and point out what seems to me to be an inconsistency in your position on two-strip Technicolor. As I understand it, you claim that it should be the number of strips of film in the camera that determines the name of the process. And, you claim that if two thin strips of film are cemented together then they should be classified as a single strip of film, even if the two strips contain different color records. If both of those assumptions are correct, then there is no such thing as three-strip Technicolor, because the three-strip camera uses a single bi-pack for the red and blue records and a separate strip of film for the green record. According to your logic, the bi-pack is a single strip of film, so only two strips of film run through a three-strip Technicolor camera, which means three-strip Technicolor should actually be called two-strip Technicolor. The fact is, Kalmus (the ultimate authority on this question) is long dead, and none of this has mattered for a hundred years, so nobody but a few scholars gives a damn. But, you are certainly entitled to your opinion.
Actually, there wasn't a separate filter; the front (blue-sensitive) film acted as the filter via a red-orange dye coating on its emulsion.... bi-pack was two separate strips of film sandwiched together (emulsion to emulsion and separated by a red filter between them) as they passed through the aperture gate. The illustration is here so you can count them.
Actually, there wasn't a separate filter; the front (blue-sensitive) film acted as the filter via a red-orange dye coating on its emulsion.
Touche! Brilliant.What I'm having trouble understanding is why you seem so determined to dig your heels in to somehow make the wrong term correct. Saying it's okay because no one alive really cares anymore is, I'm sorry to say, an intellectually lazy response.
be willing to learn and share some information. Attacks are pointless. We're all imperfect, and sometimes we read into the comments more than was intended...Come on guys, stop the personal references towards each other that denigrates the other person. We're better than that!
I thought it made for a good discussion, until you sprang that insult on me at the end. I can pride myself in the fact that I didn't stoop to name calling. I resent you saying that my response was intellectually lazy just because I had different opinions. Whether I was right or wrong, you don't know me, or anything about me, and to imply that I'm intellectually lazy on the basis of this one discussion is absurd. You may be well educated about Technicolor, but apparently you never learned how to be gracious and, in my opinion, good manners are far more important than this discussion was.
I wish you had access to the materials and really do it right!! The joy and satisfaction of being able to restore this film to it's full colored glory, when we know that copies exsist, would be the project of the decade!! It's just getting access to the Cezch film elements seems to be the biggest hurdles?I bet the blood in that Mysterious Island clip was Handschiegl red and that would’ve been very striking against the green tinted footage.
Three strip Tech had three negatives in varying positions within the camera.Mr. Krupp: I respect your knowledge of Technicolor and your opinions, but just for fun, I'm going to get super nit-picky and point out what seems to me to be an inconsistency in your position on two-strip Technicolor. As I understand it, you claim that it should be the number of strips of film in the camera that determines the name of the process. And, you claim that if two thin strips of film are cemented together then they should be classified as a single strip of film, even if the two strips contain different color records. If both of those assumptions are correct, then there is no such thing as three-strip Technicolor, because the three-strip camera uses a single bi-pack for the red and blue records and a separate strip of film for the green record. According to your logic, the bi-pack is a single strip of film, so only two strips of film run through a three-strip Technicolor camera, which means three-strip Technicolor should actually be called two-strip Technicolor. The fact is, Kalmus (the ultimate authority on this question) is long dead, and none of this has mattered for a hundred years, so nobody but a few scholars gives a damn. But, you are certainly entitled to your opinion.