lord of the rings killed my speaker!!

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  1. Scot Pritchard

    Scot Pritchard Stunt Coordinator

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    Lat night i was watching lotr at pretty high levels went to check the levels of the speakers and one had a funny sound to it no tweeter the speakers were B&W cdm1nt the matching center and para adp studio surrounds,and a svs sub.could i have fried the tweeter in the one speaker? i use a bk ref 30 and a five channel rotel 110watt a channel amp.on the bk i had it to -10 on the volume. whats your opions
     
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    Yes.[​IMG]
    Swap that speaker with another channel. If the same speaker sounds bad, it is the speaker.
     
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    LOTR ROCKS!
     
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    Its not the channel its the speaker already tried differant speaker. i put my old trusty studio80 in their place and everthing is ok again. now those paradigms i hope can handle it[​IMG]
     
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    Scot says: "now those paradigms i hope can handle it"

    Scot, I have not played that DVD yet, but I keep hearing in these forums comments to how "loud" it is and how much low-end it has.

    If you blew out a tweeter your amp could have been clipping.
    If that's the case you could "pop" another one.
     
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    Do you think a bigger power amp may be what i need to look into if so any sugestions? maybe a bigger 2 channel amp and i would use the rotel for surrounds and center.
     
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    How bout a Rotel 1090 380watts X 2 ? [​IMG]
     
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    Scot says: "Do you think a bigger power amp may be what i need to look into if so any sugestions?"

    If you were indeed clipping, more power or more efficient speakers are the only solution.

    I don't know what power you're running right know, so it's hard to give a specific recommendation. To increase your headroom by 3dB you need to double your power output.

    So to give you any kind of benefit this would be the bare minimum I would trade up to.

    6 dB would be more realistic if you are going to be listening at those levels. This would mean that you would need to quadruple your amps output.

    I am sure if you give us the efficiency of your speakers and the power of your present power amp, the folks here can come up with some alternatives.
     
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    The power amp am running is a rotel 985m11 5 channel amp 110x5.thespeakers are bw cdm1nt at 88
     
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    I blew my left rear channel speakers while playing Lord of the Rings.

    I'm running a Rotel 1095 amp. This amp doesn't clip.

    I'm just wondering if the soundtrack is recorded with clipping. Is that even possible???
     
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    Scot-

    Were you running the CDM's small or large? We have the same setup almost verbatim (1nt,cnt,20-39csi,paradigm adp-150). I haven't watched LOTR yet.
     
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    Ugh, I also have B&W CMD1NT and I have watched LOTR but they survived, I didn't even know I could have burned them.

    I have Rotel 993 and 991 both amps 200W and they don't clip ever with the volume I am running them at.

    If there is a problem with the recording we should all know don't you think?
     
  13. Scot Pritchard

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    I tried something differant that night i was using the paradigm x-30 sub control this has a selectable high pass on the main speakers before the power amp stage crossover points are 50-80-120 i was set at 80. in this configration you tell the bk ref 30 theirs no sub a run large speaker setting. i dont know if thats the reason i blew the speaker or not.
     
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    I listened to the cdmnt 1 at a dealer with the rotel reciever. We played LOTR and the speakers handled it just fine. It was at loud levels. I would say that your amp clipped and nailed the tweeters.
     
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    Chip E.....YES[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
    I have seen the movie three time now. Yesterday I listened at reference level (my wife was out of town) and WOW!!!.
    I use Klipsch speakers and I think they do great with movies like these due to the horns.
    Uhhh, oh yea, sorry Scott...I hope all turns out well.
    My opinion is that maybe a stronger amp would help. I use a 150WPC amp that does miracles above the 100WPC internal amps on the Onkyo TX DX 797.
     
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    Denon 4802 here. My CC370 sounds funny. I am not sure if LOTR did it but yeah, it happened at around the time I got that movie (2 - 3 weeks ago). I already spoke to my dealer, will get a replacement soon.

    Incidentaly, the same center crapped out on me earlier in the year. Probabbly got somehow damaged during my move. As far as I know, it was working fine at the old place, sounded weird right out of the box at the new one.

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    Scott/Ned-

    This is off topic, but what are your thoughts on the CDM-CNT? Mine just arrived three days ago & I have it matched with CDM NT7s as mains and CDM NT1s as surrounds. I love the 7s but the CNT seems real "boxy" sounding. Did it improve over time? I was using a Canton Ergo CC for my center and I'm thinking of going back to it.

    Jay
     
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    While we are at CNT , I also think it is somewhat 'muddy' and dialog is not so clear as expected, I get much better dialog if I set the processor to be with 'vitural' center, therefore running it all with the L/R speaker.

    Probablly this is the placement... or this spaker is just no good. Don't really know. Until now I thought it is the room/placement thing and didn't really put too much attention to it.

    Anyone else?
     
  19. Scot Pritchard

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    I really like the cdm series but once i get it back they will probaly go upstairs in my bedroom system. i will use the paradigm studio 8o studio center and studio surrounds in the theater. they just seem better suited for home theater. unless it was a clipping amp. i probally should nt of ben listening at those levels. anythoughts on good home theater speakers
     
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