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Looking for info on Abstract Acoustics Speakers

Discussion in 'Speakers & Subwoofers' started by FrancisD, Dec 17, 2003.

  1. FrancisD

    FrancisD Auditioning

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    I inherited a set of these but haven't been able to find any info on the web about them, if anyone knows anything about them, quality level, etc... please let me know.

    thanks!

    f.
     
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    immature_co Auditioning

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    Hey man!
    I have a Pair of Abstract Acoustic Speakers>
    And i have had them for about 6 years.
    And i seem to know more than Everyone i have ever talked to.
    LOL
    So yeah..
    IF you got a question Ask me.>
    As for Quality.
    They are Fantastic.
    Like i would buy Any of them on the spot if i saw them.
     
  3. Jonny K

    Jonny K Second Unit

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    I have an old Abstract Acoustics subwoofer. Abstract Acoustics was made by a Toronto company called Audiosphere in the 1980s and is now out of business. They were generally lousy speakers (sorry to say).
     
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    They are good speakers, they won't sound as good as 600$ klipsch but for an average price of 70$ you can't go wrong.
     
  5. ARGuy

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    I just picked up a pair of Abstract Acoustics speakers, the ASX-PRO.800 model. I grabbed them for next to nothing, the previous owner kept them in impeccable shape for such old speakers - nary a scratch on them. The drivers are all fresh and compliant, I would have thought at this point I'd need to re-foam them - but they are good as new. This set has Japanese drivers in them, thought it would be Chinese for sure. Nothing like dual 12" woofers to rumble the place. I love how gems like these are overlooked by the audio snobs,

    Their audio tone is a bit bass heavy but not boomy - that's why I bought them though. I'm sort of tired of the neutral KEFs, Focals and Fluance speakers I've owned in the past. Reference speakers have a way of being a bit too vanilla for me. I want more of a colored bass tone that's warm, smooth and rolls off well but still captures those low lows - like the AR9s in my den. I'm a big fan of acoustic suspension design, but these bass reflex do a decent job regardless. Most of the higher end speakers have dual tiny 6" bass drivers and are essentially tinny sounding without their matching sub-woofers. You don't need subs with the dual 12" woofers in these ASX speakers. But they have two ports instead of the usual 1 that usually accompanies dual 12" woofer designs of this era. I may experiment and block off the second port to see if the bass can be reduced just a little.

    The mids aren't muddy or muffled as I expected them to be, they are open and clean and have as much definition as my KEFs ever did. Highs are crisp and smooth - another surprise as I was expecting harsh and peaky and was all set to replace the tweeters. I was looking for resonant bass and this is where it's at. So nice not to have to use a sub as a crutch. Over the years, I've noticed that the most resonant cabinets for the average 16'x20' room needs to be about 14" in depth - these enclosures qualify and it's evident in their tone.

    It took some time to find their room placement in order to have them project evenly. Once I found it, they became much more neutral but still with that bottom end that smaller drivers just don't have.

    They have 2 issues: the bass is a little too directional, it changes quite a bit as one walks around the room, but that could be because I'm used to my AR9s which have dual 12" side-firing woofers. The second is they need more insulation which I plan to address soon. Overall, an excellent buy for the lunch money I spent on them.
     
  6. David Norman

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    Is this the record for most frequently necro'd post? 5 yr, 7 year, 3 yrs When the next revivial?
     
  7. ARGuy

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    Goes to show you the longevity & durability of some decent brands that many audio snobs just sniff at. Someone else will probably buy a set in the future and this thread will be revived 5 years from now.
     
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    I have a set of the asx-pro 400 that I bought new about 18 years ago and still work very well. only issue I ever had was the tweeters. they blew about a week after I got them. the retailer was nice enough to pull the pair out of another set they had in stock, but they blew again shortly after. I currently have replaced them with some focal car audio tweets I had and sound even better.
    same story, bass is big. the 12's pound. I disabled my sub and it's better than with.. currently powered by 2 year old onkyo receiver.

    yes, it's an old post. but hey, they are still going 18 years later.
     
  9. ARGuy

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    Funny you should post now. I just finished swapping out the stock 12s with these Faital Pro 12s. I was looking to reduce the boominess and it worked. At first I thought it was the way the bass ports were tuned, but it's just the drivers.

    When I first put them in, they sounded much flatter but there was something missing - and it's because I had turned down the bass on my amplifier in an effort to reduce the boominess of the old drivers. Once I leveled the bass back to neutral, they now sound exactly like I want them to sound.

    As for your comment on dual 12s, I agree. I used to drag full Marshall stacks to the studio (8x12") and my bassist used a 4x15" cabinet. How today's speakers with their puny 6" and 8" drivers plus a single 10" or 12" sub hope to duplicate that big studio sound is beyond me - it just won't. One needs at least dual 12s per speaker to make it sound like it should. And having no sub keeps the sound more cohesive. I have a 15" AR sub I occasionally use but it's really not needed when you've got four 12" woofers. I have a similar setup in my car.
     

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