Looking for films like this one

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  1. Shayne Lebrun

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    Woke up in the middle of the night, and found a 1958 John Wayne movie called 'The Barbarian and the Geisha' on moviepix. Good movie. Now I want to see others like it. Any suggestions?
     
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    What was it that you liked so much about it ?
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  3. Shayne Lebrun

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    Couldn't really pin any one thing down; I liked the subject material, I liked the presentation, I liked the film style, I liked the costume and set design, and so on. :)
     
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    Shayne,
    I see you are a fellow Mississaugan like myself...
    If you like foreign films ( delve more accurately in Japanese culture as this film was rather demeaning in its portrayal of the people of Japan ) then I could recommend a few dozen... but no point if you are not a sub-title person...
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  5. Shayne Lebrun

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    Original language with subtitles wherever possible; if you take a look at me DVD list you'll see I've a LOT of anime films, for example.
     
  6. Shayne Lebrun

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    Oh, and how was it 'demeaning' in it's portrayal of pre-Meiji Restoration Japan? Seemed fairly accurate to me.
     
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    How about any of the various versions of Anna and the King of Siam, The Adventures of Marco Polo, or the Shogun miniseries?
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  8. Pascal A

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    For a more accurate and more importantly, native look at the Tokugawa era (pre-Meiji Restoration) period, try Kenji Mizoguchi's Tales of the Taira Clan that depicts the protracted feud between the abdicated emperor and his Taira clan samurais against a ruling rival samurai clan and their holy palanquin guards.
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    Pascal,
    I have no objections to your recommendation, but personally, I'm not sure whether I would say "native and more importantly accurate" rather than the reverse which you used. Native perspectives on history are frequently more biased and inaccurate than third party views. On the other hand, understanding a culture's views on their own history is useful whether accurate or not.
    As for the specific films we have been discussing in this thread, the "third party" films I listed range from historically naive to plain ignorant, so I guess the distinction is not that important in this case. [​IMG]
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  10. Pascal A

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    Ken, we're on the same page here. When I use the word accurate, what I mean is that the film is an accurate reflection of the Japanese sentiment at that time, and not a third party's interpretation of how they felt. It may not be how history or other people perceive them, but it is how they perceive themselves. All I'm saying is, it is not our place to project our thoughts and belief systems to portray other cultures.
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