I'm looking to stay in the >=$10,000 range and build a complete home theater audio system (processor, amp, speakers, sub). My room is 17' wide by 23' feet long with 7'11" ceilings. This system should preferably be 7.1 I want this system to be very loud and I prefer full size floor standing speakers up front and possibly for the rears as well. As for the processor and amplifier I have been told good things about sunfire and outlaw audio. It looks like they may have some systems that fit the bill for around $3500. Although I don't think it's necessary to specify in this price range... it must have DTS & Dolby. Seperate processor and amplifier is a must. The speakers and amplifier in this system I do not plan to upgrade, ever. The sound and video processors and projector I may like to upgrade at some point. Any reccomendations where to read up, what and where to buy, and other forums where i might ask some more questions are greatly appreciated.