Look At All These Great 1950s/1960s Films That Are DVD-less!

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  1. David Von Pein

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    Yep! It's the 2,399th HTF "Why The Hell Isn't This/That On DVD Yet!!??" thread. Sorry, but Congress demanded another. [​IMG]

    I'm sure fans of great 1950s dramas would concur that it'd be nice to see new SE DVDs on the shelf of 1959's Anatomy Of A Murder, as well as 1954's The Caine Mutiny.

    Upcoming SE Bulletins Welcome here. [​IMG]

    Why the current close-to-being-bare release of Anatomy is in Full-Frame only is rather frustrating, don't you agree? Was Anatomy shot at 2.35? Or was it done @ 1.85 or 1.66? I'd be interested in knowing. (Certainly can't tell from the 1.33 DVD! [​IMG])

    Some of the 1950s/1960s DVD gaps are being filled in with the recent additions of To Catch A Thief, Roman Holiday, The Day The Earth Stood Still and Journey To The Center Of The Earth. But there is still a boatload of titles that cry out for Digital justice! Such as ......

    No Highway In The Sky (1951)
    The Greatest Show On Earth (1952)
    Executive Suite (1954)
    Dial M For Murder (1954)
    The Bad Seed (1956)
    The Wrong Man (1956)
    Around The World In 80 Days (1956)
    Julie (1956)
    The Spirit Of St. Louis (1957)
    Compulsion (1959)
    Midnight Lace (1960)
    Advise & Consent (1962)
    I Could Go On Singing (1963)(Judy Garland's last film)
    A Child Is Waiting (1963)


    Just gander at all these excellent motion-picture experiences that are lacking a DVD treatment!!

    Don't you want all of these?! Of course you do. [​IMG]

    Any more??

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  2. David Von Pein

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    Let's also go back into the late 40s to include..........

    The Web (Vincent Price)(1947)

    and

    Call Northside 777 (1948)
     
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    David,
    In fairness to the studios, you can only release so many titles on dvd at a time. In April and May alone, I have preordered 65 dvd releases of classic films that were made more than 30 years ago. By the way, Send Me No Flowers is already out on dvd and I bought it last month.
     
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    Fullframe doesn't automatically mean it's pan & scan. Anatomy of a Murder is presented unmatted on DVD. For a 1959 "flat" film, that shouldn't be a problem.

    In fact, nearly every film on DVD in "pan & scan" only are flat films. There are really only a handful of true pan & scan DVDs out there.

    As for the titles...

    WHV is working on DVDs for Around the World In Eighty Days and Dial M For Murder. I think it was mentioned that The Greatest Show On Earth is under consideration somewhere. That title needs a lot of care since it's 3-strip Technicolor...it needs to look like that!

    When a film isn't on DVD, don't automatically think it's due to neglect. Many films aren't on DVD because they're awaiting thoughtfully done DVDs, rather than slop that Madacy would release. I could name dozens of films I'd like on DVD, but that's not my job. I'd rather let the studios do quality DVD editions in 2005, than buy a crappy DVD this year. Plenty of titles out now that are living proof of this "wait is great" method.
     
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    Anatomy of a Murder is definitely not 2.35:1. I believe the correct AR is 1.85:1.

    I seem to recall hearing that there is an anamorphic OAR version available in another region.

     
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    IMDB indicates 1.85:1.

    Yes, they are occasionally incorrect, but given that the film was released in 1959, that ratio is more than likely accurate.
     
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    We've been down this road before:

    http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htfo...my+of+a+murder

    But no definitive answer was attained.

    Columbia/Tristar has evidently released this film in 1.85:1 anamorphic in another region.

    Someone also observed that the full frame version is also cropped at the sides in comparision to the 1.85:1 version.

    And the mystery continues...
     
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    I stand by what I observed tonight!
     
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    Since I'm terribly curious now, I'm going to go see if the video store nearby has this one for rent.

    Nope, no such luck. [​IMG]
     
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    I have no idea whether THIS PERSON speaks the Gospel re. Anatomy Of A Murder, but he claims within that web link that .......

    >> "The DVD of Anatomy is curious, because it informs you that the picture is "full screen" and that it has been "modified" to fit "your screen" (assumed to be 1:1.33). But of course, that was the way it was shot — at 1:1.33 and framed so that cropping it to 1:1.85 in the theatre was fine. So one has to be careful on this subject. Other films shot in the same manner are being released on DVD as 1:1.85 only."

    Of course, the above paragraph is definitely incorrect re. the "Modified" disclaimer that he says is on the DVD packaging. Because, upon further searching @ DVD Empire, we can see that Crawdaddy had it correct...at least for the Region 1 release...it says that the 1.33:1 ratio preserves the original theatrical aspect ratio.

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    Granted, but there is also the possibility that the DVD is labelled incorrectly. It wouldn't be the first time.

    At the end of the day, I'm like Robert and tend to trust my judgment on these things. I think I've seen enough movies to have some kind of awareness as to when the AR is off.

    For example, I would maintain my belief that The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance is correctly framed at 1.85:1 on DVD, though IMDB stubbornly maintains 1.66:1 as the correct ratio (I did try sending a correction).

    Of course, I haven't seen the DVD of Anatomy of a Murder, so can't really comment further. Knowing that Robert has seen many films from this era, I certainly agree that his opinion on this has some merit.
     
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    Someone brought that up in the other thread, Randy, and it's a good point.
     
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    The Bad Seed w/ both endings would be super. as far as neglect, try The Other from '72.
     
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    I would love to have Nicholas Ray's Bigger Than Life, Douglas Sirk's Magnificent Obsession, all the unreleased Sam Fuller films like The Steel Helmet and the musicals mentioned in other threads like Lil' Abner.

    Certain DVD's, like Night of the Hunter, display the "modified to fit your screen" tag even though they were shot Academy ratio.
     

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