Logic 7 and DPL II, T.V. surround mode, WOW.

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  1. Jerome Grate

    Jerome Grate Cinematographer

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    Short history, my wife was complaining about having to use the big remote for everything and the fact that she has to turn every thing on and figure out what turns the t.v. up or down. So to fix the problem I re-routed the left and right audio cables from satellite to vcr to receiver, to satellite to vcr to t.v. then out to receiver.
    The equipment used are:
    HK AVR 500
    Echostar 4721 DD satellite receiver
    Toshiba CX32G 32 inch t.v.
    JVC 7600 S-VHS VCR.
    I figured that I won't be using VIDEO 1 analog on the receiver only for VHS tapes and that's only a few movies. I always use optical connection from the satellite receiver with the PCM so I can access Logic 7. Now it sounds great but when I switched to Video 1 analog and selected surround on from the t.v. audio menu, it blew me away.
    Some may have forgotten that some t.v.s have this surround mode that expands the sounds from the two speakers and I can understand this because I never thought of using the t.v. audio for anything. But when it's passed through Logic 7 the sound is absolutely incredible. Since Logic 7 is close to DPL II I assume that it will work the same way. Even the commercials were just incredible.
    Now with this new found fun I decided to put in one of the VHS movies Return Of the Jedi Special Edition with the added scenes and the beginning was absolutely awesome, Good bass extension, and the score was everywhere. I was watching Darth Vader's ship drop out of the Battle cruiser and it crossed over to the left side of the screen and behind, the sound went from the front to the left surround. I said wait a minute did that just happen, that was almost as effective as 5.1 so I rewind to that scene to see if it was true and it did the same thing. I was floored and then Vader's ship with the escort came from behind to the front of the screen and the sound was quite accurate. This wasn't sound that was created like a DSP (hall, pavilion) this was real, it's clear that logic 7 takes the existing sound and channel it where it was intended.
    Now this is all through the use of the surround mode from the t.v. and Logic 7 went to town with it. I was impressed with Logic 7 from PCM and I have to admit, it is louder, but this was darn good. Still wish it was 5.1 and I hope it's much better than what I heard last night but I was really, really floored. Try it DPL II and other Logic 7 users you won't be sorry.
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  2. Jay Mitchosky

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    It is reasons like this that I find DPL II more exciting than the new rear channel formats. THX EX & DTS ES are great, but when considering the immense volume of software that can benefit from Logic 7/DPL II processing schemes I think there is more bang. Particularly for those like me who simply cannot accommodate rear speakers.
    Lexicon & Citation owners have raved about Logic 7 forever.
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  3. Jerome Grate

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    It was the rave of the Lexicon and HK owners with Logic 7 that steered me to the HK. What I was impressed with was the fact of the bass extension. I'm going to try te Indy trilogy again as well as the cd music channels on satellite. My favorite are the Saturday action Cartoons coming up, all of which are in Dolby Surround.
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  4. Larry Chanin

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    Please forgive a dumb question, but what does the "7" in Logic 7® Cinema stand for?
    From what I've read the Harman Kardon’s AVR 500 is a 5.1 channel receiver, so I assume that this version of Logic 7 takes 2-channel sources and creates 5 or 5.1 multi-channel effects.
    Is there an other version of Logic 7 in some of the high-end processors that creates 7 channel effects?
    Thanks.
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  5. Earl_C

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    "Is there an other version of Logic 7 in some of the high-end processors that creates 7 channel effects?"
    That would be correct Larry. And Logic 7 processing has been expanding 2 channels to 7 since the 80's. And since Lexicon writes their own code, they've been improving it ever since. Logic 7 can also be applied to Dolby 5.1 and dts and achieve 7(plus sub) separate channels of information that is an improvement on Surround EX's single-mono rear channel. The 7 speaker presentation is why I chose a DC-2 over a TagMclaren although the Tag is an incredible piece and PLII is a more than viable alternative [​IMG]
    [Edited last by Earl_C on September 06, 2001 at 01:06 PM]
     

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