Short history, my wife was complaining about having to use the big remote for everything and the fact that she has to turn every thing on and figure out what turns the t.v. up or down. So to fix the problem I re-routed the left and right audio cables from satellite to vcr to receiver, to satellite to vcr to t.v. then out to receiver. The equipment used are: HK AVR 500 Echostar 4721 DD satellite receiver Toshiba CX32G 32 inch t.v. JVC 7600 S-VHS VCR. I figured that I won't be using VIDEO 1 analog on the receiver only for VHS tapes and that's only a few movies. I always use optical connection from the satellite receiver with the PCM so I can access Logic 7. Now it sounds great but when I switched to Video 1 analog and selected surround on from the t.v. audio menu, it blew me away. Some may have forgotten that some t.v.s have this surround mode that expands the sounds from the two speakers and I can understand this because I never thought of using the t.v. audio for anything. But when it's passed through Logic 7 the sound is absolutely incredible. Since Logic 7 is close to DPL II I assume that it will work the same way. Even the commercials were just incredible. Now with this new found fun I decided to put in one of the VHS movies Return Of the Jedi Special Edition with the added scenes and the beginning was absolutely awesome, Good bass extension, and the score was everywhere. I was watching Darth Vader's ship drop out of the Battle cruiser and it crossed over to the left side of the screen and behind, the sound went from the front to the left surround. I said wait a minute did that just happen, that was almost as effective as 5.1 so I rewind to that scene to see if it was true and it did the same thing. I was floored and then Vader's ship with the escort came from behind to the front of the screen and the sound was quite accurate. This wasn't sound that was created like a DSP (hall, pavilion) this was real, it's clear that logic 7 takes the existing sound and channel it where it was intended. Now this is all through the use of the surround mode from the t.v. and Logic 7 went to town with it. I was impressed with Logic 7 from PCM and I have to admit, it is louder, but this was darn good. Still wish it was 5.1 and I hope it's much better than what I heard last night but I was really, really floored. Try it DPL II and other Logic 7 users you won't be sorry. ------------------ If loving Home Theater is wrong, I don't want to be right!!!