lexicon dc-1 4v or 2.1v

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  1. BarOr

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    Do anyone knows what is the difference between the version?
    Is it worth spending more money on the 4v?
     
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    Not too sure about what the different firmware entails (ask on SMR Forums), but if you do buy a DC-1 MAKE SURE it has the DTS board fitted. These are incredibly expensive, so getting a DC-1 + DTS board will be pratically the cost to what DC-2's are going for nowadays.

    Personally I wouldn't buy a DC-1, look around for a DC-2 (latest v4 firmware, DD & DTS options). It has many more digital inputs.

    I know Version 4 firmware has THX EX, improved Logic 7, and AV Sync delay (I own a MC-1 V4)
     
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    What is wrong in dc-1 that include dts,ac-3,dpl,logic 7
    (7.1 ?) and thx?
     
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    Nothing wrong with them, it's just that the demand for DC-1's is much less, therefore if you decide to sell it off you're very much unlikely to sell it (more interest in the DC-2) I/O Connectivity is far superior on the DC-2 (also it has triggers) Although if you do buy a DC-1 with version 4 firmware (and DTS board) for about ~£400 that's a good buy. I wouldn't pay more than £500 for a DC-1 though, as a DC-2 with V4 firmware went for £650 a little while ago.

    From what I gather from UK ebay sales anyway.

    Yes a DC-1 has DTS, AC-3, Logic-7, THX - 7.1 channel, just make sure DTS board, and with AC-3 option as well. The basic DC-1/DC-2 are just Pro-Logic & THX. I've seen some of these basic models going, they never sell. Prohibitive to get the upgrades (EEPROM - DC-1/DC-2 & DTS board on DC-1)

    [edit] DC-2 has more S-Video inputs as well. Download the manuals for DC-1 and DC-2 from the Lexicon site and compare the back panel

    http://www.lexicon.com/products/downloads.asp?ID=12
    http://www.lexicon.com/products/downloads.asp?ID=7

    [edit2]

    My MC-1 arrived with early f/w, I then got V4 EEPROM FOC. Couple of things I noticed with the earlier f/w that the V4 firmware fixed..

    Digital click on every chapter skip.
    Clicking per dB step when adjusting volume.
    Pop when muting/unmuting Music Logic mode.
     
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    First of all thank you
    Second I didn't understand if the dc-1 4v has 7.1
    last would you spend the extra 200$ on the 4v rather the 2.1v
     
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    All versions of the DC-1, DC-2 and MC-1 are 7.1. Even the old CP-1,2 & 3 are 7.1 (Pro-Logic, expanded to 7.1)

    There is no hardware difference on the back panel between DC-1 firmware versions. The firmware is a removeable EEPROM, which replaces the existing firmware chip. The add-on DTS board on the DC-1 & DC-2 (fitted as standard on MC-1) slots in on the left hand side.

    How much have you seen a V4 DC-1?
     
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    I have seen dc-1 4v that cost 800$
    Further more I have seen 2.1v that cost 600-650$
    Thank you
     
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    I would go for the V4 DC-1 (if you can't afford a DC-2), $800 works out at £434, which is a excellent price.

    If 2.1 has the same problems as my MC-1 early f/w -I think spending a bit more on the latest firmware is a wiser choice; those loud clicks & pops were quite worrysome (could damage a tweeter, especially if the master volume is set loud), I muted it whenever I wanted to skip/reverse chapters.

    I've uploaded pics of the DC-1 & DC-2 back panel to a site..

    DC-1 only has 2 coaxial, 2 optical. DC-2 has 5 coaxial, 3 optical. DC-2 has two more S-Video in's, RS232 & 12v trigger block. Do you need more than 4 digital inputs?

    http://nathansilly.012webpages.com/dc1dc2.JPG

    Copy the link to IE, then paste. Do not click the link (doesn't support direct link)
     
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    I don't need more inputs or outputs (at least for now)
    Thank you [​IMG]

    Further more do anybody know what is exact difference between 2.01v and 4v?
     
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    Do you know what is the address of this fourm?

    Thanks
     
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    I did as you said:

    My qustion:
    "Hi,
    > Do any one know what is the difference between the two?
    > Is it worth spending 200$ more on the 4v?
    > Thanks"

    The answer:
    "The differences between V2 and V4 were major--virtually all the surround
    modes were significantly improved, and the remote was redesigned. Most of
    these changes were introduced in V3; V4 introduced THX Surround EX and DTS
    ES (matrix).

    Well worth the price difference--it would cost a lot more to upgrade a V2 to
    V4, if parts are even available.

    Cheers,
    Philip Brandes"

    Anyway thank you


    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    There's a DC-2 V4 on Audiogon for $1000

    I think the $200 more for the DC-2 V4 over a DC-1 V4 is worth it.. :)
     
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    Thanks
     
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    By the way do you think that lexicon dc-1 with decent power
    would be a match to denon 3803 (music and home theater wise)?
    Thanks
     
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    Ask the same question on SMR [​IMG] I haven't used a 3803.

    If 2ch Hi-fi is important as well, then I would buy a off-board DAC and a 2ch pre-amp, as I feel HT processors cannot "do" Hi-Fi well :)
     

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