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Thanks again Dave.

Really, the possibility of greater than Gb is just speculating about the future. I doubt I'd ever want, and certainly never need it.

Do those PoE switches sense power need? Meaning, can I connect a PoE port to a non-powered peripheral?

I need more than 5 ports, so I figured THIS ONE.
Yes, PoE is on demand, so only PoE compatible devices will draw power (as much as they need). That switch will work nicely.
 

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I have the last model AirPort Extreme, which provides 250Mb/s in the main living part of the house. It looks like 250 is the maximum WiFi that router is capable of. Everything in the HT is wired, but it also has that WiFi speed as well as in the living room, which doesn't have anything wired. So, all that should be sufficient for a long time, or until the Apple router dies.

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With a slightly older AEBS, I connected an Airport Express and set it to Bridge Mode for a wired extender. Been working fine for about eight years.

I think you'd do basically the same with a new access point.
 

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With a slightly older AEBS, I connected an Airport Express and set it to Bridge Mode for a wired extender. Been working fine for about eight years.

I think you'd do basically the same with a new access point.
That brings up an option I hadn't thought about. I could get the AP Dave suggested, with a router, and use the much more capable and powerful AP in the main part of the house, then turn off routing on the AirPort Extreme and use it as an AP in the bedroom part of the house.
 

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I’m ready to upgrade my home wifi. I’ve had some intermittent streaming problems in the theater. I’ve also concluded I’ve got slow wifi the theater room. And I’ve had some few times when both iPhone and iPad completely lose wifi for a few minutes at night — like my wifi system is completely going offline for no reason.

But I don’t have time to get into it yet. Even with the good info give me here so far, I‘m not able to concentrate on it and pull together the plan. Maybe this Christmas vacation I can take time, make the plan, order gear, and install It.
 

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Trying to make some decisions for home wifi. The Ruckus AP talked about here is $900 at Amazon. So that’s…not an option. My budget is ~$500 not thousands and thousands for a home wifi upgrade. So I’m looking at the TP-Link EAP since they’re affordable and have a pretty good reputation. I don’t have any TP-Link brand affinity. I’m trying to downselect options so I don’t get lost in analysis paralysis over access points. And to help get to deciding “AP or Consumer Mesh”?

Can I use “Ceiling” access points near ground level? I can’t ceiling mount access points. My ethernet runs are normal outlet height (12” off floor) so APs will be upside down from ceiling-design orientation and probably be about two feet off floor.

TP-Link EAP 225 v3 Ceiling AP is back to $60. I could buy four for the main rooms in my home: Living Room, Bonus Room, Master BR, Theater. I’d have to use their POE adapters because I can’t practically get POE to power them, since they don’t have a LAN output port.

TP-Link EAP 235 Wall AP is an interesting option, also $60 each. They have three LAN pass through ports. So I could buy a POE switch for the basement to power them, and they can pass through Ethernet to local switches where needed. But I worry that there’s some implicit and hidden tradeoff with these. The value is … too good? Because otherwise, these seem great.

With four APs in key rooms, I’m thinking I don’t need a wifi router? I could get a non-wifi router switch for $60. It’s Omada so it should integrate well with TP-Link EAP? Also being smaller and not wifi, I don’t have to have in the awkward location of up in the basement rafters of my current wifi router, but can stick it in the “home run” box for easy access if it needs a power cycle.

Omada Gigabit VPN Router
 

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Can I use “Ceiling” access points near ground level?

Certainly but I'm not understanding why you would want to. Running a discretely hidden cable higher would be preferred. It doesn't need to be on the ceiling but the higher the better.
TP-Link EAP 225 v3 Ceiling AP is back to $60. I could buy four for the main rooms in my home: Living Room, Bonus Room, Master BR, Theater. I’d have to use their POE adapters because I can’t practically get POE to power them, since they don’t have a LAN output port.
This model comes with a PoE adapter so you should be all set. If you did buy a PoE switch you would also be able to power them that way without the adapter. You don't need LAN ports for PoE.

With four APs in key rooms, I’m thinking I don’t need a wifi router?
Agreed. I have 4 AP's throughout my home. The main router has built-in Wifi as well but it's close enough to one of the other AP's where it doesn't really do me much good as an AP. In my case I leave it enabled but restrict it to only a couple of device connections that can benefit from it.
 

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Certainly but I'm not understanding why you would want to. Running a discretely hidden cable higher would be preferred. It doesn't need to be on the ceiling but the higher the better.
I might be able to get the AP‘s higher in some locations. But I don’t know. It’s safer to plan for them being closer to floor level, which is easy. (Visible cables running up walls fails SAF.)

If Access Points have to be installed on ceilings facing down over or room, or installed 8 feet up on a wall with no obstructions to function, I have to find a different solution.

But if that setup is ideal, but their wifi is strong enough to work well with general placement, then I can install as best possible. I’ll never have ideal placement. But I might be able to get some up higher, or less obstructed.
 

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But if that setup is ideal, but their wifi is strong enough to work well with general placement, then I can install as best possible. I’ll never have ideal placement. But I might be able to get some up higher, or less obstructed.
You said it perfectly. Just as with our HT hobby, there are always real-world considerations. Some time invested in experimentation will let you know what you can live with. Based on some of your earlier comments however, I would go for optimal placement in your Theater room. My wife could care less what I do in mine as long as I confine my madness there.
 

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Made a new thread. :)
 

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