hi all- this may be kind of tough, since i don't have specific brands & models to refer to, but here goes. i'm thinking about upgrading my current setup to mid-end gear. i guess by mid-end gear, i mean stuff that is higher then denon, yamaha, onkyo, etc, but not as expensive as krell, theta...stuff like that. in other words, something a working-joe enthusiast could afford. based on all i hear, the paradigm, def-tech, b&w, m&k speakers will definitely be on my list. i'll also be auditioning gear by rotel, parasound, nad, adcom, etc. my question is... can you guys give an approximate ball-park cost for this type of setup. i'm guessing it'll be somewhere around 3-5K, but i'm not sure. i also hear a lot of people talk about dealers giving discounts. how true is this and what percentage could i reasonably expect to ask off? i guess i'm really just wondering at this point. ------------------ You step in the stream, But the water has moved on. This page is not here.