less popular subwoofers

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  1. felix_suwarno

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    i am not gonna buy a new sub, but i just did a small research just for fun... and came up with ACI Titan II LE. how does it compare to hsu vtf3?

    i also read articles from CES Las Vegas, and well, i was surprised that there are still tons of obscure brands that i havent heard before. NSM? Soliloquy???

    anyway, i am interested with the ACI sub. it looks beautiful.
     
  2. Saurav

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    Interesting that you describe the ACI Titan as being "less popular". Just goes to show how much a person's internet exposure is controlled by the websites he or she visits - on some other forums, the Titan is considered one of the better (if not best) subs in its price range, I see it recommended all the time.

    Haven't heard of NSM, have heard of Soliloquy. Haven't heard any of their speakers though.
     
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    less popular because i rarely see people talking about it here.

    how does it compare with svs ultra?
     
  4. Brian Bunge

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    The ACI Titan II is a completely different animal than the SVS subs. It is a small sealed enclosure with a Qtc~.6 so it's geared more towards 2 channel audio than HT.

    It should be more directly compared to the various REL offerings, but is considerably cheaper and many would say it even sounds better.

    Brian
     
  5. Jim J

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    Do you happen to know the Qtc of the SVS Subs?
     
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    Generally, the discussion round here centers on subs that are geared toward HT. Usually ported models. While there is no doubt in my mind the Titan is a great sub (just look at the reviews), it is not one the ones that gets talked about too much maybe because of its price ($1100?) and because it seems to be marketed toward audio-only applications.

    That does get me thinking though. I wonder how the Rava would stack up to the Titan since it does seem to be a relatively similar configuration at 1/3 the cost?
     
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    Well, the driver in the Rava has greater Xmax than the one in the Titan. But the Titan does have quite a bit of flexibility in setting up over the Rava. It also has a much better cabinet than the Rava, and I'm not just speaking of aesthetics either.

    Brian
     
  9. felix_suwarno

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    saurav, pls gimme links to sites where aci is popular. i am interested to see.
     
  10. Brian Bunge

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    Felix,
    How about ACI's official forum over at www.smr-forums.com?
    BTW, the ACI has been doing the mail order thing for a LONG time! Over 25 years.
    Brian
     
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    For those interested in the ACI Titan II LE's "HT" performance, the Titan II LE replaced an M&K MX-125mkII in our system. As a point of comparison, the Titan II LE easily has the output that the MX-125mkII did in our system.

    Michael
     
  12. Saurav

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    www.audioasylum.com
    And I often see references to other DIY speaker-related boards where ACI is popular. Madisound, SpeakerCity, things like that... I don't know the URLs for those, as I don't vist them.
     
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    it is a small world. i hate audioasylum's layout, there arent lots of posters on smr, avs doesnt have dedicated speaker section, ditto with hometheaterspot...

    home theater forum is the best.

    where the hell are the rest of the audiophile community going? i mean, i am a little bit tired with htf, even though i consider it the best. they keep talking about the same brand over and over again. svs, paradigm, jbl, axiom and diva.

    thats why if they dont talk about a brand often here, i considered it "not popular".

    or maybe those audiophiles enjoy their revel, wilson, thiels at home and dont bother to visit internet forums. there arent event lots of people here who like bostons or psb.
     
  14. Saurav

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    Do you have access to Usenet newsgroups? If you don't have NNTP access, you can read (and maybe post to) these newsgroups at groups.google.com (I believe that's the URL). Anyway, check out RAHE - rec.audio.high-end. A lot of fairly well known names in the audiophile community (i.e. equipment designers, magazine reviewers, and so on) hang out there. There's rec.audio.opinion too, but I don't really have much idea of that group.
    As for AA's layout, it has it's pluses and minuses. One thing I like about it is that it's easier to follow a thread which spins off in a few tangential directions. But yes, that's definitely a matter of taste [​IMG]
     
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    The thing about the popularity of a sub is also the price bracket of the participants of the forum will also affect the suggestions given and brands recommended. SVS (PCs and CSs), HSU (namely VTF-2), and Adire (Rava) are very popular mail order suggestion as these are very affordable cost subs that most likely 50%+ participants of this forum can easily afford (most of us most likely view these as entry level subs that compare to the store bought $1000 sub category). Another name that usually isn't mentioned in Acoustic Vision (Kyle participates in the DIY forum mostly from what I notice but will custom build and make breakdown kits for the DIY market), Stryke (excellent drivers and passive radiators), VMPS (sort of an oddball company since it isn't mentioned here but the sub is definitely built to overkill standards), Dayton (Partsexpress DIY kit that literally is drill a few holes and drop in the parts, pretty much what Kyle above does though he offers Adire as well), and Nht (I think both Madisound and SpeakerCity offers this as a kit with cabinets I think, as well as other sub kits with minimal assembly).
     
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    yea that makes sense.

    realistically speaking, i wont be able to purchase speakers more than 5000 bucks a pair in, say, more than 10 years from now. but i am curious as hell, especially after seeing revel gems. they are so beautiful. and i might even change my mind, since i realize that most of the money spent for that kind of speakers were gone for the finish / appearance of the speakers themselves. still, i want to see people talk about it. hopefully these people are not snob.
     

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