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Lady and the Tramp OAR

Discussion in 'DVD' started by ScottR, Mar 24, 2003.

  1. Lars Vermundsberget

    Lars Vermundsberget Supporting Actor

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    Quote: "Mulan and Black Cauldron never had a laserdisc release - at least not in the US..."

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    Exactly. I've got both of them on LD - in French.
     
  2. Tim Glover

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    Thanks DaVid. It certainly would be nice to have both versions on the dvd. I believe Disney will accomodate us[​IMG]
     
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  4. James Reader

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    Lady and the Tramp was released in the UK as a 'Limited Edition' before Disney's Platinum release schedule was announced.

    I've only seen it once, but from the looks of it, it was the 'scope version pan and scanned.

    I could be wrong.
     
  5. Ken_McAlinden

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    David,
    Please Re-read my post with both quotes. I am not denying that anything Jeff posted was accurate, I am just saying that in the context of the post he was responding to, a terse partial answer is misleading in that one could infer from it that the only laserdisc master was 2.35:1 and that the audio and video were both "rehashed". In fact, there were two laserdisc masters, one of which was 4:3 and was not released, rehashed or otherwise, on a DVD. This was a sigificant part of Brian's post. The audio was also obviously not a rehash.

    I considered these to be points worth clarifying.

    Regards,
     
  6. DaViD Boulet

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    Got it Ken.

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    The current DVD of Oklahoma! has both, although...not 16x9.

    The flat versions (non-anamorphic) of Brigadoon and Seven Brides were produced in hard-matted 2:1 (or around that).

    A few of the CinemaScope cartoons made by MGM were produced in both formats such as Dixieland Droopy.
     
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    Oklahoma! is the one of these that has 2 different WIDESCREEN versions; the others are widescreen and 4:3.

    I want both versions of this movie on a disk -- they both use the same music tracks -- and I want the possibility of watching the musical numbers *simultaneously*, to see how they are different. AMC showed a comparison some years ago, and the documentary The Sound of Movies shows a very brief comparison of the song, "The Surrey with the Fringe On Top." Although it's pretty clear that the Todd-AO is superior for color and clarity, many people, including R&H, preferred the Cinemascope version of the performances, and this version has more angles, more setups, making it a little more cinematic.

    Donen, Kelly, Minnelli, and others were initially quite dismayed about the widescreen, because it made the coherence of dance very difficult. It really wasn't until West Side Story, circa 1960, that dance was used effectively on the widescreen (filling up the width without cutting out people's feet).
     
  12. DaViD Boulet

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    Would love both versions of Oaklahoma...but I don't want mutiple-angles to accomplish it (what you'd need to toggle between the two simulaneously while watching) as that would cut your max bit-rate in half and hurt overall PQ (just look closely at Disney's Beauty and the Beast on a large-display and you'll see what happens...MPEG galore!).

    -dave
     
  13. Peter Kline

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    DeeF,

    The Todd AO version has some color problems (i.e: Julie's blue gingham dress seems more grey in Todd AO and there's distortion with a wide angle lens used ( a distinct flare bubble visable from time to time). I think you've mentioned that R&H preferred the Cinemascope version before, but the actors and most critics felt the opposite. Any way, it would be nice to have both on one disc.

    DaVid,

    Mutiple angles would be difficult as the color values are different in the films. Todd AO has Eastman color and Cinemascope has Technicolor with each having a slightly different palette. There are some slight dialogue differences between the two films as well, including leads into the songs.
     
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    I'd like both on *2* discs in the same package. A nice 2-disc SE giving dual-layer treatment and good compression to both versions...

    DTS audio would be a nice touch too...

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