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Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by Seth Paxton, Mar 1, 2002.
I hope that they next remake Rashomon and "tighten it up". I noticed several continuity errors between the three retellings. Why couldn't they just tell the story once and get it right? Then they could do away with that confusing flashback structure as well.
You know there was talk with the success of Moulin Rouge! and Lord of the Rings being such risky ventures (MR for being a musical, LoTR for sheer cost and being in the fantasy genre) that Hollywood would start taking more risks in the near future.
But nope, they just want to retread on ground that's already been well worn...and was done right the first time!
I hope they leave them alone. Kurosawa rocks and is a legend. I watch The Seven Samurai, Yojimbo, and The Hidden Fortress and thought they were fantastic. I see a butchering coming.
The Magnificent Seven (1960) is already an "Americanized" version of The Seven Samurai. Why make another one?
Hey they could remake "RAN" and give it a happy ending!
Yea, Its already been done before:
A Fistful of Dollars(Yojimbo)
13th Warrior(Seven Samurai)
The different points of view when retelling a story as done in Roshomon in countless films as well.
Cant wait for that Criterion DVD.
This has to be one of the funniest, most ironic subject headers I have ever read on this board. Thanks Seth, really needed a good laugh.
But you know, there's so much about that film that bothers me. Like, why are the Samurais even helping those farmers? They don't have any kind of reward for them. And hopefully they can spruce up the ending. I mean, do so many of the samurais have to die? And here's hoping they create a CG Toshiro Mifune.
Thanks MGM, really looking forward to this one... jackasses.
I liked 'Last Man Standing' (and 'Fistfull of Dollars'), so I'm not upset or anything.
Well I think you guys are being a little harsh. You might ask the same question about Shakespeare. Of course some of those suck, but some are pretty good (IMO), such as West Side Story.
Same with Magnificent Seven and Fistful of Dollars. Both great movies IMHO.
Yes, I wish Hollywood would do more original stuff. And yes bad remakes suck. But the reason they keep remaking Shakespeare and Kurosawa is because they were so good. It's really a form of flattery.
Now if only this generation's Wilder/Diamond would actually appear, I'd be a real happy camper.
Hmmm, despised Last Man Standing, but liked A Fsitful of Dollars. Whatever they come up with, it's almost guaranteed to be worse than the original. But, it's the sign of the times.
Ah, once again we see that hoary Hollywood maxim in action..."If it ain't broke, break it."
Although I have to admit, after seeing The Three Amigos, Kurosawa's tale probably could have used an invisible swordsmen or a singing bush to liven things up a bit.
Guys, why aren't you happy? We could have the Ocean's Eleven crew as the cast! Imagine, Clooney, Pitt, Elliot Gould, Casey Affleck, Scott Caan, and Bernie Mac as the seasoned samuri figures; Matt Damon as the wannabe samuri; Julia Roberts as the peasant girl, Carl Reiner as her dad; Andy Garcia as the head bandit. And oh, McG as the director! Hoooray!
I agree with George. Remakes have been a part of movie history from the beginning. Like original movies, they can be good or bad.
I don't understand why some people think that sequels or remakes "ruin" the original film. The only thing that would ruin it is to go back and, well, actually ruin it. Making a new movie has no affect on the first one.
Actually, remakes CAN ruin the original films in a way. If the remake is terrible and gets bad word of mouth, then people will be less likely to discover the original version of the film.
Mike said :
Not all remakes are bad (Star Wars from The Hidden Fortess, Fistful of Dollars from Yojimbo, and The Magnificent Seven from Seven Samurai), but one remake is usually enough.
Star Wars is not a remake of Hidden Fortress. It borrowed chunks of plot, but not enough to be considered a remake in the sense that Magnificent Seven was a remake of Seven Samurai or Barb Wire was a remake of Casablanca.