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Discussion in 'Blu-ray and UHD' started by Ronald Epstein, Nov 11, 2010.
I can't hardly wait. Kino's DVD was spectacular, so I have high expectations for the BRD. Chaplin At Keystone, Buster Keaton, and now the greatest pirate movie ever made all at the end of the year. The Black Pirate is what entertainment is all about. Fairbanks goes up and down and diagonally across that ship in defiance of gravity. He moves with the velocity of a bullet with a rudder. And then there is the early Technicolor, which is lovely most of the time. If you haven't seen The Black Pirate yet, you owe yourself the treat.
While I would never want it done, because artistically it's apalling, technologically I've always wondered if it'd be possible to take the two strip technicolor movies and triangulate them to render a the 'third' strip that was never exposed before and create a three strip movie out of it (it almost sounds like a modern art 'reappropriation' exhibit, heh). I imagine today's color tools could create a pretty impressive 'realistic' look to a two strip film, and again, I'm glad they're NOT doing that.
I presume that I'm recalling this correctly. I believe that the two color version of The Black Pirate is made of different takes than was originally released, ie. B negative. The original, AFAIK, no longer exists. Can't wait to see this. RAH
Was the A negative also in two-strip Technicolor?
"Two-strip" Technicolor, as opposed to "three-strip," is a misnomer. It never existed. Two COLOR Technicolor was a process that exposed two frames of the negative per exposure on a single strip of film. Please go here: http://widescreenmuseum.com/oldcolor/technicolor2.htm
I love this movie and will eagerly upgrade to the Blu-ray!
Anyone seen the BD yet? Pretty good movie--I'd like to know what they're able to do with it.
I haven't watched the whole thing, but I've sampled about 5-10 minutes of it total, and it looks great, IMO. DVD Beaver's review is spot on, IMO. http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film3/blu-ray_reviews53/black_pirate_blu-ray.htm
I'm a bona fide Technicolor nutcase (have been since I was eight years old) so I had this on release day and, like Brandon, I've sampled it but haven't sat to watch it all the way through. I agree that this is well worth a purchase based on what I've seen so far. I'm STILL amazed this made it to blu-ray!
Precisely how well this Blu-ray matches the original hues is the 800 pound gorilla in the room, and not within the control of Kino, which I'm certain has done whatever they can to achieve the best looking image from what is available to them. The problem goes back to the Eastman Color negative, how exposure were made from the original elements, and in what quality. That is a huge question. RAH
I wonder if the O-neg they used for the restoration is still in existence? Considering the restoration was made some time ago, there might be some benefit in going back to the source and relying upon current digital technology. Of course, this is probably wishful thinking, since I doubt there is money enough to restore such a niche title.
What I'm reading into RAH's post is that, at some point, the original nitrate elements were judged to be in need of preservation, and the call was made to create a colour element on Eastman stock, so the big question is whether the original 2-colour negative exists, in what condition, and whether a usable element could be created from it? This may be a simple case of Kino doing the best they could with available elements, especially if the original nitrate was junked and all that exists is the Eastman colour negative. RAH, am I reading too much into your comments?