Kino-Lorber Insider Announcement Thread (Read Guidelines Post #3) (6 Viewers)

[Matt Hough]

Very happy to see this film coming to Blu-ray: all star cast, widescreen action, and color: a great combination. Will be happy to give away my open matte DVD.

 

[Robert Crawford]

Three ratios for VistaVision.
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First line is 1.66 and the second is 1.85. So either one is fine.
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This was not a VistaVision film.

 

[Robert Crawford]

Saturday's Facebook Announcement:

Coming in 2023 on Blu-ray!

Brand NEW 2023 HD Master – From a NEW 4K Scan of the 35mm Original Camera Negative

Brain Donors (1992) Starring John Turturro, Mel Smith, Bob Nelson & Nancy Marchand – Shot by David M. Walsh (Sleeper) – Music by Ira Newborn (The Naked Gun) – Produced by David & Jerry Zucker (Airplane!) – Screenplay by Pat Proft (Hot Shots!) – Directed by Dennis Dugan (Happy Gilmore).

 

[Robert Harris]

Since there's some dispute, I think we will include both ratios.

Both which ratios?

 

[Kino Lorber Insider]

Both which ratios?

Most likely 1.37 and 1.85

 

[Robert Crawford]

Most likely 1.37 and 1.85

I don't think there's much debate that 1.37 ratio is incorrect. The biggest question is between 1.66 and 1.85 ratios.

 

[Robert Harris]

Most likely 1.37 and 1.85

Just checked the original DVD, which is 1.37, and appears incorrect.

Most excess real estate at top of frame. 1.66 looks like the right candidate with cropping at top.

 

[RolandL]

This was not a VistaVision film.

I was responding to:

I'd suggest a 1:66 (what it was composed for in '54) and 1.85 (apparently what it was ultimately released in, following Paramont's introduction of VistaVision).

 

[Robert Crawford]

I was responding to:

I'd suggest a 1:66 (what it was composed for in '54) and 1.85 (apparently what it was ultimately released in, following Paramont's introduction of VistaVision).

I was responding to your three ratios for VistaVision quote. If you didn’t have that one sentence, I wouldn’t have responded to your post.

 

[Keith Cobby]

Personally, I favour 1.85 (never been a fan of 1.66) and 1.37

 

[uncledougie]

Personally, I favour 1.85 (never been a fan of 1.66) and 1.37

I would agree except if the original theatrical presentation was intended for 1.66:1. The other recent example of this question of course was the Criterion release of Summertime, which appeared to work best in 1.66 since main titles were too closely framed or even cropped at 1.85, and in 1955 the general consensus was it wouldn’t have been shown at 1.37. With The Bridges at Tokyo-Ri, the presentation standards were still possibly in a state of flux in 1954, and however the picture information frames best ideally would be used. If Kino releases it in dual ratios, though, I would bet it’s 1.37 and 1.85. We shall see. I’m just glad this is being upgraded.

 

[Gerani53]

If the film was composed for 1.66 (Paramount's designated 1954 ws aspect ratio pre-VistaVision), but was held back for release until 1955, when a somewhat more severe 1.85 cropping was used, then 1:66 is indeed what the filmmakers wanted us to see. That should have the highest priority, imo. To have two aspect ratios on this release WITHOUT 1.66 strikes me as going out of one's way to avoid the proper, primary visual presentation.

 

[Robert Crawford]

If the film was composed for 1.66 (Paramount's designated 1954 ws aspect ratio pre-VistaVision), but was held back for release until 1955, when a somewhat more severe 1.85 cropping was used, then 1:66 is indeed what the filmmakers wanted us to see. That should have the highest priority, imo. To have two aspect ratios on this release WITHOUT 1.66 strikes me as going out of one's way to avoid the proper, primary visual presentation.

Yup, I agree as 1.37 ratio should be dropped. If you're going to offer two different ratios then offer 1.66 and 1.85.

 

[bujaki]

@Bob Furmanek, asking to chime in on this AR issue. I agree with @Robert Crawford that 1.37 was dead by production of Toko-Ri and should be dropped.

 

[Robert Harris]

Yup, I agree as 1.37 ratio should be dropped. If you're going to offer two different ratios then offer 1.66 and 1.85.

This film was protected for 1.37, but looks totally wrong at that ratio. My feeling is 1.66, cropping top, but then titles will be off balance.

If Kino is willing to go dual ratio,1.37 and 1.66.

 

[battlebeast]

Mr. Insider: I would like to thank you AND KINO for even taking the time to listen to fans and add two ratios at all!

Thank you so much KINO!

 

[RBailey]

Saturday's Facebook Announcement:

Coming in 2023 on Blu-ray!

Brand NEW 2023 HD Master – From a NEW 4K Scan of the 35mm Original Camera Negative

Brain Donors (1992) Starring John Turturro, Mel Smith, Bob Nelson & Nancy Marchand – Shot by David M. Walsh (Sleeper) – Music by Ira Newborn (The Naked Gun) – Produced by David & Jerry Zucker (Airplane!) – Screenplay by Pat Proft (Hot Shots!) – Directed by Dennis Dugan (Happy Gilmore).

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So glad to see A NIGHT AT THE OPERA 2 coming to Blu-ray! Thank you, Kino !!!

 

[RolandL]

This film was protected for 1.37, but looks totally wrong at that ratio. My feeling is 1.66, cropping top, but then titles will be off balance.

If Kino is willing to go dual ratio,1.37 and 1.66.

As I posted previously, the framing marks in the upper right corner for the projectionist, are for 1.66 and 1.85 cropping.

 

[Bryan^H]

I need to spend three, or four hundred dollars...when is the next big sale??

 

[Robert Crawford]

Sunday's Facebook Announcement:

Coming in 2023 on 4KUHD!

Brand NEW 2023 HDR/Dolby Vision Master – From a NEW 4K Scan of the 35mm Original Camera Negative

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