Kino German Silent Horror box set details up at their site

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  1. StevenA

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    Kino has their German horror silents box set details up at their site, and for anybody who, like me, was burned by Elite's German Masterworks fiasco a couple of years ago, get ready to drool (presuming the frame rates are correct):
    Kino German Horror box set
     
  2. Scott Leopold

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    I've been looking forward to this ever since they announced it in one of their mailers. I'm probably going to have to wait until after the holidays to get it, but I'm hoping they do the films justice. I have Elite's German Masterworks, plus the Nosferatu SE. I've been holding off on the Caligari SE since hearing about these.
     
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    I definitely want The Golem and Waxworks, but not sure I want to rebuy Caligari and Nosferatu. Caligari might be worth it for the much longer version of Genuine.
     
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    wow thanks for this link as there are a lot of dvds I want to purchase in the future.
    [​IMG]
     
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    September 24 is going to prove to be the most expensive DVD release date in history. [​IMG]
     
  6. Enrique B Chamorro

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    I am pulled in two directions!
    I can't imagine a better version than Shepard's
    work on the R1 Caligari and Nosferatu, they are great.
    I just saw the new German version of Metropolis that
    Kino is distributing in theaters in Chicago on Saturday.
    It was ! breathtaking !!
    So Kino will step up to bat when the need is there.
    They seem to be only a conduit of great restorations
    and if they are going to use the BFI version of Nosferatu,
    can that one be any better than David Shepard's work?
    I have the R1 NTSC SE of Nosferatu and the UK R2 2 disc
    edition by Eureka Video. It was confirmed that the Eureka
    version was a license of the R1 transfer. The commentary
    track covers the same topics, just narrated by a Brit.
    The Eureka two disc version is just one version in sepia
    tone and one version in b&w, while the US SE is a color
    tint version that makes use of blue for night and light
    red for day. The US version has two musical tracks, one
    traditional and one contemporay which are both different
    from the music track on the Eureka version. Like I said,
    the commentary tracks are close on content.
    So having the US R1 and the UK R2 Eureka are like having
    three versions of the same edit, just different color
    and music.
    How much CONTENT does the BFI R2 version add or is it just
    a time change based on frame rate??
    Any comments about Nosferatu??
    It is hard to tell from the Gary Tooze's web site;
    http://www.compare.dvdbeaver.com/
    See this for BFI vs. US R1;
    This review just covers the basic about tints and music
    but doesn't go into the difference about run time.
    http://www.insideout.co.uk/dvds/n/no..._horrors.shtml
     
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    Unless this proves to be a total disaster, it's a must buy for me.

    Borrowed the Image NOSFERATU from a friend and watched it just last night--a nice disc. Really love the supplement of the then and now shots of the locations. Be interesting to see how Kino's stacks up against it.

    This new Kino box set claims to have 2 hr.s of supplemental stuff--anyone have any idea what it might consist of?

    I've never seen either WAXWORKS or THE GOLEM, so looking very forward to the Kino box!
     
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    Looks to me like he was not terribly careful with the cropping on his scans, that he was more concerned with the comparison of image quality. I myself can't make a judgement based only on these (the last set has the Image scan cropped more than the BFI).

    I share your concern, just can't really tell from those screen shots.
     
  10. Joseph J.D

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    That's a very nice set. I think I'll keep my eye out for this one. I'm also wondering how Kino's version of Nosferatu will stand up to the excellent Image disc that I already have.
     
  11. JeremySt

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    I have the white cover Image NOSFERATU disc. Is the new Kino disc out yet? I cant seem to find any news on this release.....
     
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    Are the text screens in ENGLISH or in the original language, GERMAN?

    Seb
     
  14. Brook K

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    I received The Golem and Waxworks a few days ago but haven't had a chance to watch.
     
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    cheers for the links
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  16. Larry Sutliff

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    I'm pretty satisfied with my Image NOSFERATU and CALIGARI DVD's, so I'm on the fence about those two. But I'm definitely looking forward to the WAXWORKS and GOLEM. It will be nice to see these in a quality presentation for a change; the Public Domain videos available on these titles are usually pretty bad.

    I've heard that the GOLEM DVD has a cool Easter Egg, the trailer for the METROPOLIS restoration. Now that is one DVD I cannot wait to own!
     
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    The text screens are all in English. Only on Caligari do they attempt to recreate the look of the originals (a segment of the German film is included on that disc for comparison, and they do an excellent job). It's too bad they didn't do the same for Nosferatu.

    As I noted in my reviews at dOc, there is some minor cropping on Nosferatu when compared to the Image disc, but the Kino offers more frame coverage when it really counts: Orlok rising from his coffin and his death scene.

    Der Golem looks marvelous and I highly recommend that disc (it just missed being the dOc spotlight disc this week). Caligari and Nosferatu both have strengths and weaknesses compared to their Image counterparts. Waxworks looks quite good as well.
     
  18. SteveGon

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    Sigh. Looks like another expensive purchase for me. [​IMG]
     
  19. Randy A Salas

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    Mark, your reviews of these DVDs are outstanding, a wonderful resource.

    I must say that the Image SE of Nosferatu tops the Kino release for extras since they pertain directly to the feature--a present-day tour of the sites used in the film, including commentary by film historian Lokke Heiss and comparisons with the filmed scenes; a detailed look at the famous Phantom Carriage Ride scene and how Murnau subtly added to its eeriness, again with Heiss' comments; and a photo gallery.

    But the key strong point for the Image release is Heiss' feature-length commentary. As I noted when I wrote about that release:

    "The importance of Heiss' audio essay, while dry, cannot be
    overstated. Let's face it: Filmmaking has changed greatly since 1922, and his insightful running commentary contributes immensely to viewers' understanding of this cinematic landmark."
     
  20. Joseph J.D

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    After reading Digitally Obsessed's review, I'm going to have to pick up Kino's Nosferatu disc. It looks like both the Image and Kino versions will complement each other in my collection. Only problem is, I haven't seen any copies of this north of the border.[​IMG] Oh well, if it doesn't see release in Canada, I'll just add this to my list of what to pick up in the states on my next visit.[​IMG]
     

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