Wow, what an experience. First I tried a Kenwood 6070, a lot of features for the price, warm sound but lacking in punch. Saleman suggested I trade up to a Yamaha 5590 (1300). It has more features but still lacks punch, and has a higher pitched sound that I did not like. Back to the store, now a HK 525 is suggested. Took it home, and out of the box. You could feel the quality just putting it on the shelf. It is one heavy receiver. Sounds great, warm sounding, and powerful. Easy on screen setup, even the input layout is clean. Much much better than the other models.