I am testing with the rocket/cave scene (1:20:40) in "The Incredibles". At -8db reference, I have to set master sub volume at least -12db to get the red bar on my BFD flashing. I can't go any lower for master lvl calib on my AVM-20, without adjusting the sub volume by individual source. The BFD runs at -10dBv as suggested by the Snapbug website. I have it eq'd pretty flat. I don't know how to post my chart and I don't have a host website to use. I calib everything to 75db with the AVM-20's internal test tones. Servo-15's lvl control sits at 1/4 to get 75db in my setup. Are you guys finding the same thing here, that sub volume needs to be much lower? What if I choose to listen at reference, would I be clipping all the time? Should I take the BFD's level meter to be accurate? Obviously it's not a distorted signal on the disc, so should the BFD need to be running not at -10dBV but -20dBV for reference playback without clipping? my corrected numbers are as follows: 18hz-79 20hz-81.5 22hz-82 25hz-80.5 28hz-82.5 31.5hz-80.5 36hz-80.5 40hz-81.5 45hz-80.5 50hz-79.5 63hz-80 71hz-77.5 80hz-78 89hz-76.6 falls off after this Are you guys claiming The Incredibles to be a sub destroyer running it hot or eq with "house curve?" I'm watching the rocket liftoff over and over and it didn't really impress me. I prefer DAT's tanker hitting the underwater bus, the thump just before it switches scene (1:02:55). Not as loud, but feels deeper. Or the opening salvo from Master and Commander.