Thanks Matt, I actually posted this in the wrong thread, will continue this train of thought over here:http://www.hometheaterforum.com/topic/326281-apple-iphone-5s5c-event-everything-you-need-to-know/page-4mattCR said:The motoX does suck. It's not even listed as one of those using the better lens technology etc. So, that's interesting, but it's not at all comparing to any sort of market leader.