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Discussion in 'Movies' started by Sam Favate, Jun 13, 2018.
I’m with you @Josh Steinberg.
I think there's room for a variety of different Joker origin stories.
For all intents and purposes, Batman's is set in stone. Sure, some have mucked with the details - like 1989 making Jack the killer - but all involve dead parents in an alleyway. Not a lot of variation involved.
Joker's roots have been much more fluid, so I think anything goes.
I also like the absence of explanation in "DK" but find more formal origin stories interesting as well.
Honestly, I enjoy all things Bat, so bring it on!
I don’t regret seeing Joker. It wasn’t entirely my cup of tea but I appreciated the effort.
Just saw the film this weekend. Well made, works as a piece of film art, Phoenix phenomenal...but a little too grim and bleak for me, with little catharsis at the end.
That said, here’s a thought that I don’t think I’ve seen mentioned:
We’ve been clued in that Arthur is an unreliable narrator (his “relationship” with neighbor Beetz). What if... the ending (or maybe even the whole movie) is a delusion? Probably unlikely... but just a thought!
Yeah, there's been a lot of discussion along the lines of your spoilerized comments...
Thanks Colin! Will look for it...
Finally saw this today and thoroughly enjoyed it. A really well-made film. I had reservations going in but its arthouse nature won me over before long, and I had little problem with the tone (though two instances of violence were a bit much). Phoenix did a great job but I feel the direction and editing did half the lifting in selling his performance, which made for a terrific combo in a film like this.
A pretty bold move putting out a clearly distinctive film such as this one. In its own way it's really as distinctive as the Nolan Batmans IMO. The only weaker point that sticks out after a few hours is:
The lack of change in Arthur's state of mind once he goes off his meds. I understand they wanted to give us an intense guy from the get-go but it seemed like a missed opportunity to more smoothly deevolve him.