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lcswoosh05

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I was wondering about this but is the JBL Venue Series a step up from the Northridge E Series since the Venue Series came out after the Northridge E Series? I do see some of the speakers specs like the Tour and the Balcony is better then the older series like the E10 or the N24. So I was wondering that if the Venue Series is overall a better series.
 

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I could be wrong, but I think the Venue series is the replacement, not a step up, of the Northridge series. The L series is a step up from the Northridge line. It replaced the Studio series and in my opinion is even a little better sounding than the Studio series.
 

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Well what I meant is that is the Venue Series between the Northridge E Series and the Studio Series?
 

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Gary Shipley is correct - the Venue Series would be the latest replacement version of the Northridge E Series. The E Series was the replacement version of the N-Series.

They all (above) have in common ...

High-Frequency Transducer 3/4" (19mm) Titanium-laminate dome in EOS waveguide, shielded

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Now, the present active JBL Product ES Series adds a Ultrahigh Tweeter** ...

Ultrahigh-Frequency Driver 3/4" (19mm) Polyester-film ring radiator mounted in JBL EOS waveguide, shielded

... to go along with the 3/4" (19mm) Titanium-laminate dome.

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NOTE: The S-Series and L-Series both have in common ...

High-Frequency Transducer 1" (25mm) Pure-titanium dome in JBL EOS™ waveguide, cast-aluminum chassis

**The present active JBL Product L-Series (that replaces the JBL S-Series) is the 1st JBL speaker design that added an Ultrahigh-Frequency Driver to the product lineup.

Ultrahigh-Frequency Driver 3/4" (19mm) Mylar® dome, cast-aluminum chassis, mounted in a Bi-Radial® horn
 

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I also wondered about this but is there any difference on the sound between the 3/4" (19mm) Titanium-laminate dome tweeters and the (25mm) Pure-titanium dome tweeters?
 

lcswoosh05

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Also if there isn't any updates on the Venue Series or the Northridge E Series why didn't they just kept the orginial Northridge series that was made back in 1999? I assumed that the newer series had made some minor updates on the sound or something.
 

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The difference between the two would be: the pure titanium dome has a brighter sound than the laminate. And as far as updates to the series, Phil already answered your question. They have added an Ultrahigh-Frequency driver along with the already present 3/4" laminate driver. Thats the updated feature.
 

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When you say brighter do you mean that the Pure Titanium dome tweeters sounds better than Titanium-Laminated dome tweeters? I thought that smaller tweeters usualy give better dispersion and sound. Maybe I was wrong.
 

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No. I did not mean brighter sounds better. I think your best bet is to go to a high end speaker store, so they can have you listen to the difference between "bright" & "warm" sounding speakers. Maybe then you'll understand and be able to decide what type of speaker appeals to you.
 

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I did listen to the L820 today and yes I do hear that the highs are much more realistic than my Monitor meaning the highs sounds more like real cymbals crashing. I' am not saying that my Monitor from the Venue Series speakers are bad speaker since they do sound really good and realistic but I think that the pure titanium dome tweeters give more lifelike highs that's all. Also I think that I can hear more of the low highs better on pure titanium dome tweeters that's maybe why the cymbals sounds more realistic. I did not get to hear the ES Series yet but I will soon since Nebraska Furniture Mart sells all of the ES series and the Studio L Series. I might bring my CD to listen to my music next time and listen to all of them and compair. I won't be able to afford them right now but maybe in the way future I might get them.


I listen to hear if I hear any highs coming out of the ultrahigh frequency drivers but it seems I don't hear much sound coming out of them. Very little highs come out of them. But maybe that's because humans can't hear above 20kHz. I can barely hear 18kHz but I can hear 17.5kHz very loud and clear. I really think though that it is pointless to add that ultrahigh frequency driver since I don't think anyone pretty much can hear it I mean I had to put my ears upto the driver to barely hear anything coming out of it. I think JBL should of just kept one driver for the highs like the Studio Series or the Venue Series since unless you have ears like dogs you can't hear anything above 20kHz.
 

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I did today listen to the ES Series and they yes do sound a little better than the Venue Series but they are really almost the same. The only difference I hear is that the ES Series has a little more natural sound but if I cover the ultrahigh it sounds exactly like the Venue Series speakers. I noticed that the ultrahigh driver barely makes sound but it seemed like it was playing lower high sounds for somereason when normaly it's suppose to be playing higher sounds than 20kHz. The titanium-laminated dome tweeters played the highs the most like the Venue Series. I did listen to the ES20 which is the speaker like my monitor and they do sound really alike but the ES20 sounds just a little bit better I think but they are pretty much the same speakers and I kinda think it's a waste to add that ultrahigh driver. But maybe that's why the highs sounded a little better since it added the lower high sound to it which I don't think it was suppose to do that. The Studio L Series tweeters was more powerful but maybe that's what you guys mean by brighter. I do see why you guys say that titanium-laminated dome tweeters is warm sound since it's not hard on your ears at all. The Studio L Series didn't hurt my ears eather but just had more realistic highs.

I took alot of my music and listen to the speakers so now I pretty much know how the ES Series and Studio L Series sound like.

Overall I think the Venue Series and the ES Series and Studio L Series are great speakers but the best I think is the Studio L Series since it has that pure titanium dome. But one problem is that they are soo expensive and I can't afford them. I can maybe only afford the ES20 since they are not extremely expensive. But Since there is only little different in the two I don't know if it's worth it. But I do like good sound so maybe when I have enough money I can get it.


Do you guys agree on how I think about the speakers?
Also do you guys think I probley should get the ES20 that has a little bit better sound on the highs?
 

Gary Shipley

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I think you should get what sounds best to you, in your price range. Sound is a very personal thing, and what sounds good to me, or Phil, or anyone else, may not be what sounds "perfect" to you. If you the E series is what you really like and can wait a little longer until you have the money for them, then go that direction. You can always upgrade to the next level (like the L series) on down the road when you have the money for a much better speaker.
 

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