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Jay and Silent Bob Reboot (2019)

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  1. Adam Lenhardt

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    Each picture from Clerks to Dogma was more ambitious than the last in one way or another. I think Jersey Girl is the last time he truly operated outside his comfort zone.

    His episodes in the Arrowverse have gotten steadily less ambitious over time, too.
     
  2. Colin Jacobson

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    I'll give Smith credit for branching out with "Tusk" and "Red State". Neither could be called a good film but at least they were something different for him.

    Then he did "Yoga Hosers", which is unarguably the worst film he's ever made. Smith seems bitter and lacks any sense of self-awareness as he churns out the cheapest of all possible cheap humor.

    "Yoga Hosers" represents maybe the most steep career decline in cinema history. How did the smart, self-effacing, clever guy behind "Clerks" and "Chasing Amy" become this boorish hack???
     
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    Not even Clerks II? I think there's a case to be made that that was his career high point.
     
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    Jason Mewes and Kevin Smith are coming to my arthouse on December 6 with what I presume is an early and definitely extremely overpriced show of this.

    Tickets for just the movie are $50.

    Tickets including a photo op with them -- but, apparently, no chance to speak with them -- are $250.

    Tickets including a meet and greet with the photo op are $750.

    I'll pass.
     
  5. Josh Steinberg

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    $50 for a movie followed by a Q&A that could go as long as three or four hours sounds like a very reasonable price to me.
     
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    Jake Lipson

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    It doesn't say how long the Q&A will be. It doesn't even officially say there is one. I assume there must be, but those details are not provided, so I wouldn't make a ticket purchase decision based on the inclusion of a Q&A.
     
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    That’s the whole point of this roadshow tour. You’ll see the movie, followed by a Kevin Smith appearance. He’s done this with his recent movie releases. The Q&A is usually slotted for an hour but Smith will often go past that until the venue gives him the boot. It’s not uncommon for his “Evening with Kevin Smith” events to run well in excess of two hours. The longest one I’ve ever heard of went something crazy like six hours.
     
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    Okay, good to know. My art house's web site does not mention the Q&A at all, just the overpriced photo op and meet and greet packages.
     
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    I haven’t followed all the fine print details yet for this tour so I’d recommend reading the official tour website before buying to be 100% certain, but that’s how the past events were run for previous roadshow engagements. I’ve never made it to one (just him speaking without a film) and the date he’s scheduled to be here doesn’t work for me either, but I hope one day to break that losing streak!
     
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    In recent years I have enjoyed Kevin's podcasts much more than his movies. He is very entertaining to listen to.
     
  11. Colin Jacobson

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    :eek::eek::eek:

    "Clerks II" was the beginning of the end. Smith claimed he was retiring his bread and butter characters and moving on, but once "Jersey Girl" disappointed, he immediately retreated to the safety of the "View Askewniverse" with the awkward, unconvincing "Clerks II".

    Ya can't go home again!

    Full review if you're curious:

    http://dvdmg.com/clerks2br.shtml
     
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    Clerks II was the last Kevin Smith movie that I really, really enjoyed.

    I still think Chasing Amy is his best work, though.
     
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    Compared to the Smith filmography post-2006, "Clerks II" looks good. "Zack and Miri" is better, but "CII" is clearly superior to everything else that followed.

    "CII" has some funny moments, but it's kind of a mess overall, and I remain disappointed that Smith so quickly retreated to his comfort zone.

    It's just a stale attempt to recapture prior glories, and an unconvincing one at that.

    Betting it'll be 100X better than the J&SB reboot, though! :(
     
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    I like Clerks II a lot better than Zack and Miri. I think it has some interesting things to say about the passage of time, and how what you value and what you want for yourself change over time.
     
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    I liked Cop Out. It wasn’t great, but I remember liking it from my one viewing of it years ago. Also like Zack and Miri. I hold Clerks II in as high esteem as the first. I didn’t get Dogma at all. I’d say that one was my least favorite, though I never saw Jersey Girl or Tusk. I’m curious enough about a new J&SB to be mildly excited.
     
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    I loved Zack And Miri and I thought Red State was really good. I have to give him credit for making Red State and Tusk (and even Yoga Hosers) because none of those movies exactly scream "hit movie" so I like that he just followed his fancy and made movies that were different from what he had previously done.
     
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    I liked Zack and Miri too. Clerks and Chasing Amy are my favorite films of Kevin’s work.
     
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    "Yoga Hosers" felt like a return to his old comedic style, albeit in a weirder way.

    Completely abysmal film, unfortunately!
     
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    I love Clerks II. The central point of the film blows away anything Smith has done to this day. Very heartfelt.
     
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    I was surprised by how moving I found the end of the movie where Dante and Randal are back 'home', it goes to black and white and Soul Asylum kicks in. It's wonderful and a perfect ending for those guys. So much so that I'm almost glad that Clerks III isn't happening.
     
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