JAMES BOND ULTIMATE COLLECTION

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I ordered all 4 sets from Amazon when they had that $125 deal, and I'm liking them so far. The Goldeneye cropping is disappointing (Goldeneye is my favorite Bond film and I've seen it dozens and dozens of time, so I actually do notice that something looks off), but other than that I'm happy.

My first copy of From Russia With Love didn't play consistently in my XBox 360, however. Sometimes it would start, and sometimes the 360 wouldn't even recognize that there was a disc. I had Amazon ship me a replacement (for all 4 sets haha, they couldn't just send me a new Volume 3), and the 2nd copy of From Russia With Love has started properly every single time I've put it in the 360. Both discs work in my PC's DVD-ROM drive. I'm not sure exactly what the deal is or how I could ever come to a real conclusion on whether the discs are defective or not, but I'm obviously going to keep the 2nd copy.
 

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This is odd. I popped Octopussy in my Denon 2200 and went to the time in question and it did stutter on my player. Pretty bad too.

Then I went back to the recreate the problem and it DIDN'T happen. All attempts to recreate the problem have failed. It plays flawlessly now.


I even ejected the dvd, powered down the player and tried again. No stutter.

Also plays without a problem on my XBOX.

Go figure.
 

Terry Hickey

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On "You Only Live Twice", it froze or stuttered at chapter 14, 28 seconds in
and then again at chapter 18, 3 minutes 46 seconds.

On "Moonraker" it occurred at chapter 15, 1 minute 2 seconds and then at 3 minutes 29 seconds in the same chapter.

I'll have to look at "Octopussy" to see if I encounter the same problem, but I don't remember that happening. Of course, it could have, since I finally found my paper with times from "You Only Live Twice" and "Moonraker".
The pauses or freezing or stutters lasted about 3-5 seconds, but it was
annoying.
 
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I just checked Moonraker, and I get the two pauses / stutters, one around 56:59 (which I guess it the layer change, according to what people have said here), and the second around 59:26.

This is in my XBox 360. I just tried it on my PC with PowerDVD 6, and neither spot had any noticeable problems. I assume that's because PowerDVD has a whole PC of resources, so it can have a sizable buffer and iron out things like layer transitions far before they could cause a stutter.

Though the XBox 360 has a triple-core 3.2 GHz CPU and 512 MB system RAM... I guess that speaks more towards the 360 having bad DVD playing software.

Though neither of those things explain why only Moonraker has these pauses, while other discs don't even have a layer transition problem, nevermind TWO separate problem spots...
 

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Something similar happened to me with one of those non-anamorphic Return of the Jedi DVDs: the first time I watched it, it pixellated at one point in the movie (I think it was at the point near the end of the film when the Star Destroyer crashes into the surface of the Death Star). Anyhow, I played that part back several times and even tried it on a couple of different players, and I could never reproduce the problem. So, I just figured it was a one-time fault of the player and not a problem with the disc itself.

As far as the Bond UEs go, I am going to approach them very cautiously now.

I'm sorry, but these discs should not be behaving the way so many people are reporting, and I'm not going to spend my money on DVDs that aren't made properly. IMO, a 3-5 second pause in the middle of a film is a distraction (a layer change is another issue- it's supposed to be there). If MGM is just being lazy and careless with these now because they figure the blu-rays are coming out soon and nobody is going to give a crap about the DVDs, then they've lost me as a customer. I've only bought 4 of the UE singles so far and I may not buy any more until I hear something from MGM admitting that there's a problem and they're doing something to fix it.

Should there be a separate thread made to just deal with the UE defects (with a list compliling the times/points of reported gliches/pauses, and also a list of layer change points for reference) and maybe some contact info for MGM?
 

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I've finally had a chance to watch 2 of the Moore films as I wanted to listen to the Sir Roger Moore commentary. They've been great so far. I've listened to most of the commentaries on both For Your Eyes Only and TSWLM. Great insights and stories. I should be listening in order of film release, but I liked these films he did the most. These have probably been the best additions to the UE after the Lowry treatment. And I know some have issues with how EON/Sony/MGM directed Lowry's work.

I'll probably go back now and watch Live and Let Die and Man with the Golden Gun and Octopussy with the commentary on! Maybe even Moonraker and AVTAK
 

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I've heard about that. I only saw it on the long shot in Cairo where you see Roger Moore's profile in the arch.
 

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These Bond discs have to be the LEAST "ultimate" ultimate editions ever released.

I'm disgusted.

To think there isn't a single version of Octopussy that's actually been done right:
1. The R1 SE has player-generated captions
2. The R2 UE doesn't have any captions at all
3. The R1 UE has the captions intact but the disc stutters.

I'm actually sorry I dumped my LASERDISC now! :-(
 

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With these defects, I'm glad I haven't purchased any of these 007 collections yet. I also don't like how they are all mixed -- different Bonds from different eras, rather than packaged in order sequentially.

Does anyone know if a megapack of ALL 007 movies in one boxed collection is in the works?
And if it is do you think they could strike a deal with Warner Bros. to get "Never Say Never Again" too?

Well...all but Daniel Craig in Casino Royale that is.
 

John H Ross

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Not only expensive but they'd probably just shove the existing discs into a bigger box, so all of the errors would still exist, you'd just have one big box of crap instead of four little ones!
 

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At what time in the movie does it stutter? I watched it on my Denon and didn't notice anything. I'll go back and check if you can provide some times.
 

Nelson Au

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Jeff#- Are you aware that in the UK, they had a special attache case that contained all the films in one set. Of course, we can't get it here in the US.

So far I've gone through most of the discs and I've not run into a glitch, a stutter or freeze. I have an older Pioneer player, has the problems all been isolated to newer players?
 

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I just checked Moonraker last night on my Oppo DV-971HD (which is set to Region 0) and plays fine. I bought all 4 Volumes at Costco in the city I live in. I'll check the other "defect" discs.
This sounds more like it has to deal with certain players compared to the discs themselves. I even watched AVTAK last night just for the hell of it and no problems whatsoever on it either.
All four volumes here are dual-encoded for both Regions 1 and 3.
 

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