JAMES BOND ULTIMATE COLLECTION (1 Viewer)

[John H Ross]

Well Sony could save themselves beaucoup trouble if they fix these titles BEFORE they hit the shelves in R1 so as to avoid the whole "recall" thing.

John

 

[Frank@N]

I mentioned boring menus, what I was referring to was the apparent monolithic menu style for all the UE releases (with just different screen caps).

In this regard, I much preferred the custom per title menus of the SE releases, which I believe were produced with more thought than the new 'one style fits all' approach.

I bought the box sets last time, but this time I can't/won't.

There's little need for tinkering with the newest titles (Pierce Brosnan) and they most likely won't be avoidable as packaged.

On HD this might be a different story, but then again I'm not impressed with Blu-ray or the PS3.

 

[James@R]

The major (initial) release is what I was referring to. They always use the bundled approach for the big promotions, and it obviously pays off for them. And while they do eventually sell individually, it's not often you can find all 20 titles on the shelf.

After all, why sell 2 films when you can sell 5? As we've seen from this thread alone, most people would focus on a few titles and ignore the rest.

 

[Jonathon M]

I should clarify. My response of "I hope not" was in reply to "Am I being too optimistic?". I'm assuming that Sony, now knowing of these transfer issues, will fix them before the Nov/May releases.

And with key problems being identified in the May boxes, they've got plenty of time. The US releases are in a timeframe where fixing before a release is viable. If they do anything about R2/R4, it's mail-in time.

 

[John H Ross]

I agree totally. So who here is in the "know" about these titles? Who would be in a position to find out from Sony what the plan for fixing these titles is?

John

 

[Brandon Conway]

Sony is essentially out of the picture in R1, let's not forget. Fox is now the distributor for MGM.

 

[Will*B]

I could be wrong, but I thought that Sony still maintained control on a select few titles - including the Bond films.

Anyway, I'm still unsure whether to get these boxes, or wait for HD/Bluray.

 

[James@R]

I just wish they would include the option of buying them all at once. I'm mainly interested in the Roger Moore commentaries, so it's disappointing that only 3 will be released before next May.

 

[Haden]

So they definitely are not releasing these individually? I was counting on just picking up 5 or 6 of the movies. I have no desire to buy either of those packaged sets. :frowning:

 

[Matt Hough]

At some point, all of the DVD special editions were available individually because that's how I bought all of them over time. The only packaged Bonds I've ever bought were a group of letterboxed VHS tapes many years ago.

 

[rich_d]

I would agree. It does seem to be a bonehead move not selling the complete set in November and doing their packaged release sets. After all, what's better than getting someone to buy the full set up front with the cash early in your hands? What's better than that?

Then when the release the Casino Royale disc everyone lines up again anyway, so why not get the bulk of their money from us now? Like I said, if they think that a 20 DVD set is too much for many consumers (and they may be right) they can also release the smaller boxsets. Seems like a win-win to me.

Yes they did release single titles but not for months and months after the first boxset release and only after the second coming of the boxset (if memory serves). And they were pricey.

 

[Nelson Au]

I wonder if they considered the idea of releasing sets by actor. The Connery Set, 6 films, Brosnan Set, 4 films, Moore Set, 7 films. I guess Lazenby makes that kinda hard, but they could lump him in with the two Dalton entries. Or include Lazenby and Dalton with the Brosnan for 7 films.

 

[jim.vaccaro]

That'd be too much like chronological order. That makes too much sense, apparently.

 

[rich_d]

Certainly a Lazenby/Dalton/Brosnan boxset is a feasible solution.

But it is painfully obvious that the DVD producers believe that they will make more money putting the least popular with the most popular.

Now, we all can argue (and will) to the end of time, as to which of the actors are the most popular and by how much. What I think is obvious might not be to someone else.

Though we know they won't do it, it would be enlightening if the Moore and Connery boxset were sold. Then the sales figures would make that abundantly clear. People would vote with their wallets.

Barring that, the next best possibility is down the road. If they do release the hi-def titles individually (a possibility due to their higher price-point) Amazon sales rank would become extremely interesting info.

 

[Robert Harris]

There has been almost as much multiple-dipping of the Bond films, as with Halloween and several other Anchor Bays.

This is a last gasp effort to sell the same films, once again in SD, while the beautiful new HD masters wait for release just around the corner. In 12-18 months, these discs will be old SD stock.

Save your dollars and put them toward an HD player.

RAH

 

[Dharmesh C]

Robert, your thoughts on this?

http://www.thedvdforums.com/forums/s...=1#post6658965

 

[Frank@N]

Well, I'm practically horrified.

There's framing changes in almost every screen shot and the color timing changes are completely excessive.

It's like the computer was trying to turn day shots into night scenes.

I can't believe they weren't double checking all the computer changes.

 

[John H Ross]

The only problem, Robert, is that some of those "beautiful new HD masters" look absolutely wretched if they're the same masters used for the Ultimate Editions and recent screen comparisons are anything to go by. If Goldeneye looks like THAT in HD then frankly I'm sticking to my DVD SEs.

Plus, of course, these'll presumably be going exclusively onto Blu-Ray and we all know how controversial THAT platform is right now! If I start investing in HD it's gonna be HD-DVD. Probably.

A shame though, cos I quite like the idea of improved audio on titles like DAF, Moonraker and TLD (which I thought were extremely disappointing on the old SEs), plus I want the burned-in captions that are promised in R1.

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on the screenshot comparisons, as an expert and all.

John

 

[Reagan]

Paul's right.

I bought all of mine (I only bought about half) one at a time at BB and CC and Target, etc.

In 1999 and 2000, they were released in groups. You could buy the set or single discs.

-Reagan

 

[James@R]

The original SE's did find their way to the shelves much quicker. I actually bought a few before buying the sets. But as you illustrated, it was rare to find all 20 at one store. It also underscores my original point.

They have made these titles available individually, as well as in bundles. But the fact that they continue to default to the bundled approach suggests that it works better for them.