Italian For Beginners NOT 16x9

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  1. JohnS

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    First they did it to Monsoon Wedding, now with Italian for Beginners.

    Sad really. It's a lovely little film.
     
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    Well IMDB states that the OAR is 1.37:1 so you are watching OAR, what do you want more [​IMG]. Does Dogma 95 say anything about the OAR the movie has to be in to be certified?
     
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    According to the Dogma rules it should be 4:3. So if Miramax follows that the DVD should be nonanamorphic.

    Now if it's nonanamorphic widescreen then we've got two problems, since it shouldn't be widescreen to begin with and if they're going to crop it to a widescreen AR they should at least make it anamorphic.
     
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    Also, aren't those different "theys"? Universal is "they" for Monsoon Wedding, with Miramax "they" for Italian For Beginners.

    And, hey, IIRC, Miramax cut it for US release anyway.
     
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    Well, IMDB may say it's 1.37:1
    but the dvd is 1.55:1
     
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    You know every year there is a dispute of the ARs of films I saw at the NYFF the year before. I think I'll have to go back and add the ARs of the stuff I saw this year, so when someone starts claiming a year from now that something was in Academy, I'll know better.
    Everything I saw this year was 1.66:1 or wider. My memory of Italian For Beginners isn't strong enough to swear about, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't Academy. And yes at the NYFF Academy films are projected correctly, as many shorts are 1.37:1, not to mention last year we had the gorgeously restored Night of the Hunter in 1.37:1.
    So far as Dogme '95 rules, they are made to be broken -- if it is one of their friends, it'll get certified.
     
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    The OAR of this movie is Standard Academy (Dogma rule).
    This is how it was shown in Denmark. I can't say how it was shown in the US, but anything other than SA is a mistake,
    since that would involve cropping the picture.
    The current danish DVD is also SA btw.

    Regarding the runtime. The danish DVD runs 108 minutes. Add 4% for the theatrical and US runtime and you get the 112 mins that imdb has. The 118 minute version must have been a different cut (there are some deleted scenes on the danish DVD). Several sites in Germany (and other countries) list the runtime as 118 mins.
     
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