Italian for Beginners DVD Cut!!!

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  1. Francis Yee Loy

    Francis Yee Loy Auditioning

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    I just watched the Danish movie "Italian for Beginners" on DVD. I thought it was quite entertaining and a great introduction to the Dogme 95 style of filmmaking. However, I was a bit shocked to find out afterwards that the DVD release of the movie was cut down to 97 minutes by Miramax!

    The original running time was 112 minutes in North America and 118 in Europe!! Was there any logical reason for this? I would assume that for a DVD release they would have at least presented the North American cut or (wishfully thinking) the original Danish version. But to edit the movie even further for DVD release?!

    Is there a way to complain to Miramax about their rampant editing and/or rescoring of foreign movies? What they already do to all the classic Hong Kong cinema films is a total travesty, but this decision does not make any sense. Did they think this movie would be such a blockbuster with the public that they would need to tamper with it so much?

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    It really DOES NOT matter if some people SUBJECTIVELY believe that a shorter cut of the film -- by someone who has no investment in the film otherwise in any way -- is better or not.

    It is NOT Harvey Weinstein's job to modify a film's cut to "fit" the American market. These weren't cuts because of violence, sexuality or bad language, they were cuts that Harvey Weinstein thought were necessary to make J6P appreciate the film. When last I looked, Harvey Weinstein was neither director nor editor on this film, and had nothing to do with the film when it was released to the Danish market.

    I think Dogme is WAY overrated, and that it's a bad film regardless of the cut, but there is absolutely no justification whatsoever for this.
     
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    What was the quote? " I don't cut because I want to, I cut to get the shit to work"...........
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    I agree with Kenneth that Harvey should keep his hands off the scissors. On the other hand the film-maker makes his own deals. It's no secret that Miramax cut foreign movies. So the film-makers can choose not to sell to Miramax in the first place. Of course you'll loose out on their marketing-power, but then Dogme-movies are about the art of film not money. Right?
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    Yeah, unfortunately:

    1) Harvey & Miramax are notorious for cutting -- Hong Kong film fans have been screaming bloody murder for a long time now for the cut & dubbed versions on HK stuff that Miramax has been putting out. I wouldn't object to putting both the original and Miramaxed version on DVD, but denying us the original should not be tolerated.

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    double-post.........
     

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