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Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by Peter Kline, Feb 1, 2002.

  1. Peter Kline

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    By The Associated Press

    Look closely at the calendar Saturday. Then do it backward.

    In either direction, it's still 2-02-02.

    You're in the middle of a palindrome — a string of numbers, words or sentences that read the same backward or forward.

    A palindrome year such as 2002 usually happens every 110 years, and Saturday's palindrome day is another rarity. Then Saturday night brings a palindrome in military time: 20:02, or 8:02 p.m.

    That's reason enough for a palindrome party, says Mark Saltveit, editor of The Palindromist magazine.

    To make the event more special, invite others who were around in 1991; having two palindrome years so close together is a thousand-year happening.

    Saltveit suggested a palindromic party menu:

    Ham — ah!

    Salad, alas.

    No lemons, no melon.

    Naive Evian.

    Yo, bro! Free beer for boy!

    "After Y2K and the heavy events of 2001, people are looking for something a little silly to occupy their minds," Saltveit said from Portland, Ore., coincidentally returning a reporter's call at 1:31 p.m.

    "Palindromes are as good as anything and better than most to take your mind off your troubles," he said.

    Palindromes were originated by Sotades the Obscene, whose vulgar verses about a ruler of ancient Greece led to the poet's painful execution.

    Officialdom apparently hasn't caught palindromania. There is no evidence of formal palindromania in the corridors of power — no pronouncements from White House or the United Nations, no congressional declarations or parliamentary citations.

    Even in the southwest Missouri palindromic community of Ava, City Clerk Marilyn Alms hadn't pondered palindromes until a reporter called.

    "I think our population is about 3,003, maybe that helps," she said.

    Ava was named after a place in the Bible — "It's mentioned in II Kings, and II is a palindrome," Alms said — and it's Missouri's largest town with a palindromic name (the others are Otto and Reger).

    Some palindromes make fine icebreakers: "Madam, I'm Adam."

    Some are clever tributes, such as the late Leigh Mercer's tribute to Theodore Roosevelt: "A man, a plan, a canal: Panama!"

    Other palindromes deliver tongue-twisting political sarcasm. Witness Saltveit's: "O naughty me, tut! It's Bush — substitute, myth, guano."

    Palindromic tweaking is nonpartisan: "Flog sad loser Al. Gore, zero, glares, old as golf."

    Some enthusiasts are into palindromic words and others specialize in numbers; it's permissible to play with spaces and punctuation. One of the most noted palindromists, Peter Hilton, possessed dual specialties. Hilton was an Allied genius who during World War II sorted numbers and letters that helped smash Nazi codes.

    After working all night breaking codes in 1943, Hilton burst forth with this palindrome: "Doc, note. I dissent. A fast never prevents a fatness. I diet on cod."

    For all the brainpower behind snappy palindromes, they aren't universally appreciated, as Sotades the Obscene found out the hard way in the third century B.C.

    He mocked the marriage of King Ptolemy II to the king's sister, verses that were raunchy when read backward. For his witty word exercises, Sotades was ordered encased in a lead box and tossed into the Mediterranean.

    "I suppose the king had no sense of humor," Saltveit said, "and for his art, Sotades suffered a fate something like concrete overshoes in an old Mafia movie."

    Amen, icy cinema.
     
  2. AjayM

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  3. Jack Briggs

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    I love it when Peter comes up with these little gems. And I've been wondering where our friend has been of late. Glad to see you, Mr. Kline.
     
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    Ric,
    Reminds me of that Carlson skit..."There's a magazine called WALKING!!!. Todays article...putting one foot, in front of the other!"
    Bruce
     
  6. Glenn Overholt

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    I thought that the year '02' was like two thousand years ago. Did I miss something?

    Glenn
     
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    I was going to write something, but Ajay beat me to it. [​IMG]
     
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  12. AjayM

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    Well cover a span of 5000+ years (0-5000bc) this phenomenon only happens a few times, not every 110 years. In fact you can go out a fair ways before it happens again.
    5082
    4972
    4862
    4752
    4642
    4532
    4422
    4312
    4202
    4092
    3982
    3872
    3762
    3652
    3542
    3432
    3322
    3212
    3102
    2992
    2882
    2772
    2662
    2552
    2442
    2332
    2222
    2112
    2002
    1892
    1782
    1672
    1562
    1452
    1342
    1232
    1122
    1012
    902
    792
    682
    572
    462
    352
    242
    132
    22
    Now if you reset the 110 yr rule at your last x99x year and then add 11 you will run into this occurance again. Example;
    2992
    3003
    3113, etc
    3993
    4004
    4114, etc
    But that's getting kind of complicated now.
    Andrew
    (edited way to many times due to a bunch of lame excuses) [​IMG]
     
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    Ajay...what happened to the Original 02/02/02? Whay did you start at 22? I am curious and I am sure that you have a sound mathematical answer. (Want to help me with my Quantum Physics Homework? [​IMG] )
     
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    Are you sure this shouldn't have been posted on 4-01-02?
     
  16. Glenn Overholt

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    No, but we can try it again for today = at 8:02 military time.

    20:02, 02-20-2002

    How's that?

    Glenn
     
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    "Able was I ere I saw Elba"

    "Xanax" is a palindrome because if you take too much, you won't know if you're coming or going.

    On a tangential topic, I still remember the night of May 5, 1978. A DJ on the radio pointed out that shortly after midnight, it would be 12:34 5/6/78. I had a feeling that something strange would happen that night. Self-fulfilling prophecy or no, after the bar closed I found myself chasing down a hit-and-run driver for a license plate number, then a bunch of people ended up at my house for a very freaky party.:b
     
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  19. Bob McLaughlin

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    To build on what Glenn said:

    As the clock ticks over from 8:01PM today, Wednesday, February 20th, 2002, time will (for sixty seconds only) read in perfect symmetry. To be more precise: 20:02, 20/02, 2002. It is an event which has only ever happened once before, and is something which will never be repeated. The last occasion that time read in such a symmetrical pattern was long before the days of the digital watch (or the 24-hour clock): 10:01AM, on January 10, 1001.

    (And weren't we at that point plunged into the Dark Ages?)

    Because the clock only goes up to 23.59, it is something that will never happen again.
     
  20. Greg_Y

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    From Snopes.com:
    Claim: The last possible symmetrical year/date/time combination will occur on 20 February 2002.
    Status: False.
    Example: [Collected on the Internet, 2002]
     

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