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"Knives Out", and "Midway".

I don't own "Blackhawk Down" but I heard that is problematic too.
I'll try playing those 4K discs with my 820 player. What are the issues with the 9000, does it freeze up immediately or does it take a while?
 

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I'll try playing those 4K discs with my 820 player. What are the issues with the 9000, does it freeze up immediately or does it take a while?
From what I have read the 820 is identical tot he 9000 in locking up on these players, although that has not been confirmed. Dolby Vision is the source of issue apparently.

EDIT: 37 , and 39 minute mark Midway, 2 hour mark Knives out. Dolby Vision only.
 
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From what I have read the 820 is identical tot he 9000 in locking up on these players, although that has not been confirmed. Locks up at the late middle of Knives Out, and Midway --sorry, don't have the time to check right now. Dolby Vision is the source of issue apparently.
Knives Out and Black Hawk Down UHD both also play fine on my 820. I have yet to have a single problem on any disc.
 

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Hmm..., well I'm not the only one that has had the issue.
Perhaps it's a component issue limited to a certain production run.

I *have* had one instance of Dolby Vision weirdness with my 9000, concerning the new Arrow 4K release of Dune. On the 4K disc there are about a half dozen "making of" video extras produced in 2005. If I have DV turned on I get no video at all when I attempt to play them, only audio. A black display. If I disable DV on the player, forcing it to use the HDR10 layer, those same extras play just fine. I've been working with Arrow customer service and they're investigating, but there's no news yet as to whether or not it's an authoring issue.
 
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The Panasonics haven't had a firmware update for more than two years (July 2019), so unless you got one of the very first players available all firmware is likely the latest version.
 

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Just saw this thread - didn't have a 4k-capable setup until about a month ago but so far I've not encountered any disc skipping or freezing issues with clean discs at all.

I have an Oppo UDP-203 and an LG UBK80. Neither of them has had any issues with any 4k or 1080p (or DVD) so far.

Is there any common thread between discs people notice playback issues with?
 

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I don’t remember a hard lock-up with my Oppo BD203. I think there have been times when I’ve had to eject a disc and clean it to get it to play.
 

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Most recently, the main problem with freezing has seemed to be with triple layer UHD discs which some players seem to choke on. My Philips player didn't have any trouble with My Fair Lady (I assume it was triple layered, but I don't really remember).
 

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Do any of you have experience with the LG UBK90? I'm in the market for a new 4K ULTRA Blu-Ray player and have heard that those were good, but I'm wondering if they're having the same freezing issues that the rest are. I didn't see any mention of them in this thread, just the UBK80. Another question, what will I be missing out on if I buy a player that doesn't have Dolby Vision?

I don't want to spend a lot of money on this, and that's because I got bit buying a $500 Oppo and then 4K comes along and made it obsolete. Sorry, but just don't like dumping good money after bad with a big format change, and am wondering if 8K is the next big thing to render everything else obsolete. The Panny 420 sounds pretty good from you folks are talking about, but not sure if I'll be missing out on anything by not having Dolby Vision.

Thank you,

Adam.
 

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Do any of you have experience with the LG UBK90? I'm in the market for a new 4K ULTRA Blu-Ray player and have heard that those were good, but I'm wondering if they're having the same freezing issues that the rest are. I didn't see any mention of them in this thread, just the UBK80. Another question, what will I be missing out on if I buy a player that doesn't have Dolby Vision?

I don't want to spend a lot of money on this, and that's because I got bit buying a $500 Oppo and then 4K comes along and made it obsolete. Sorry, but just don't like dumping good money after bad with a big format change, and am wondering if 8K is the next big thing to render everything else obsolete. The Panny 420 sounds pretty good from you folks are talking about, but not sure if I'll be missing out on anything by not having Dolby Vision.

Thank you,

Adam.
The chances of there being an 8K disc format are pretty much zero. There's no 8K film and television content, nor is there likely to be any in the near future. And the only existing content that could even slightly benefit from 8K is a few dozen films shot in 65mm and IMAX.
 

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The chances of there being an 8K disc format are pretty much zero. There's no 8K film and television content, nor is there likely to be any in the near future. And the only existing content that could even slightly benefit from 8K is a few dozen films shot in 65mm and IMAX.

In regard to optical discs, 8Kbluray is likely not in the cards.

Though with that being said, never say never on your other points!!! ;)

When native 8K video becomes common, the first big time application will likely be live sports/olympics events. The second big time application will probably be something like live streaming porn shows, and/or live video game playthroughs at competitions.
 

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The chances of there being an 8K disc format are pretty much zero. There's no 8K film and television content, nor is there likely to be any in the near future. And the only existing content that could even slightly benefit from 8K is a few dozen films shot in 65mm and IMAX.

Not to mention you're almost certainly not gonna see the diff between 4K vs 8K w/ any consumer level display (size) unless you like your nose virtually pressed up against the screen, LOL.

Even true IMAX theaters only became equipped w/ 4K laser projection just ~3 years ago when they ran the 2001: Space Odyssey restoration revivals...

_Man_
 

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If 8K resolution movies or tv shows ever become common, the first mover will likely be on a streaming service like Netflix or Disney, or amazon, apple, etc ....
 

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Not to mention you're almost certainly not gonna see the diff between 4K vs 8K w/ any consumer level display (size) unless you like your nose virtually pressed up against the screen, LOL.

The first adoptors will likely be hardcore nerdy/geeky tech types, who absolutely insist that they WILL see a difference between 4K and 8K.

Even if it is just a "mind trip" in their own quasi-autistic brains. ;)
 

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That’s a lot of data to stream.

Of course.

First movers + early adopters are willing to pay top dollar for such bandwidth. Even if it is just for "bragging rights" amongst their other hardcore nerdy/geeky peers.
 

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The first adoptors will likely be hardcore nerdy/geeky tech types, who absolutely insist that they WILL see a difference between 4K and 8K.

Even if it is just a "mind trip" in their own quasi-autistic brains. ;)
I thought that about 4k when it was first being pushed (especially after being correct in my guess that 3D would never take off).

Back then I sat about 12 feet from a 75" 1080p screen and at that distance really can't see the benefit. Now I've humbled myself somewhat and sit about 9 feet from a 75" 4k screen and absolutely can see more detail :biggrin:

Though... this lesson suggests that for 8k to be a thing, I'll either need a much larger screen or have to sit uncomfortably close.
 

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