Is Rhino eventually releasing the ENTIRE Elvis Costello catalog?

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  1. Greg_Y

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    As someone who is just discovering the wonderful world of Mr. McManus, I'd like to know if Rhino plans to release ALL of the albums as 2-disc CD sets? 3 were released this past week (My Aim Is True, Spike, and All This Useless Beauty) and 3 more will be released on November 6 (This Year's Model, Blood & Chocolate and Brutal Youth.)
    The Rhino press release says:
     
  2. LarryDavenport

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    I believe "entire" implies "all." If you don't already own the Ryko versions and really want all the bonus tracks then wait for the Rhino versions.
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  3. Kevin Leonard

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    All his main albums will be re-released as 2-disc sets. I believe side projects like Painted From Memory (w/ Burt Bacharach), Deep Dead Blue (w/ Bill Frisell) and Costello & Nieve will not be reissued.
    Speaking of Costello, as soon as I can get my hands on the new Spike, expect in-depth reviews of the 3 new re-reissues.
    Edit: well, I couldn't wait and started up a review thread:
    http://www.hometheaterforum.com/uub/...ML/000556.html
    Assuming the thread doesn't get closed, you can read my (so far) review of My Aim Is True, with the Spike and ATUB reviews to follow.
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  5. Greg_Y

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    I have no insight, other than to say that they were removed from Rhino's "Upcoming Titles" web page.
     
  6. Kevin Leonard

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    The next wave of reissues have been delayed until mid-Janurary of next year.

    EDIT: Make that January 15th, 2002, to be exact.
     
  7. Kevin Leonard

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    If anyone is interested in what will be on the next trio of Costello reissues in terms of bonus tracks, here they are; tracks in bold italics denote Rhino exclusive tracks This is a tentative listing, by the way:
    This Year's Model Bonus CD
    1. Big Tears
    2. Crawling to the U.S.A.
    3. Running Out of Angels (demo)
    4. Greenshirt (demo)
    5. Big Boys (demo)
    6. You Belong to Me (demo)
    7. Radio, Radio (demo)
    8. Neat, Neat, Neat (live)
    9. Roadette Song (live)
    10. The Price of Love (live)
    11. This Year's Girl (alternate)
    12. (I Don't Want To Go To) Chelsea (alternate)
    13. Stranger in the House (BBC version)
    Blood & Chocolate Bonus CD
    1. Leave My Kitten Alone
    2. New Rhythm Method
    3. Forgive Her Anything (alternate from Ryko version)
    4. Crimes of Paris (electric)
    5. Uncomplicated (alternate)
    6. Battered Old Bird (alternate)
    7. Seven Day Weekend
    8. Baby's Got a Brand New Hairdo
    9. American Without Tears No. 2 (Twilight version)
    10. All These Things
    11. Pouring Water on a Drowning Man
    12. Running Out of Fools
    13. Tell Me Right Now
    14. Lonely Boy Blue
    Brutal Youth Bonus CD
    1. Life Shrinks
    2. Favourite Hour (alternate)
    3. This Is Hell (alternate)
    4. Idiophone
    5. Abandon Words
    6. Poisoned Letter
    7. A Drunken Man's Praise of Sobriety
    8. Pony St (alternate)
    9. Clown Strike (demo)
    10. Rocking Horse Road (demo)
    11. Still Too Soon to Know (demo)
    12. All the Rage (demo)
    13. Just About Glad (demo)
    14. Sulky Girl (demo)
    15. You Tripped at Every Step (alternate)
    EDIT: I got this info from...
    http://www.elviscostello.info
    Smashing site by the way; if anybody is interested in Costello, you should really check it out.
     
  8. Mark Cappelletty

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    I really like the Rhino versions of these records-- the sound is marginally better but the extra tracks and liner notes are excellent.

    Upgrading from the WB records -- Spike, Brutal Youth and eventually Mighty Like a Rose, The Juliet Letters and Kojak Variety -- is a no-brainer with the vastly improved sound and extra tracks, but moving up from the Rykodisc versions is more problematic, though the as-yet excellent quality of these issues have pushed

    the matter over the top for me.

    What chaps my hide this time out is the fact that, at least with "Blood & Chocolate," some of the bonus tracks from the Rykodisc version are NOT on the new Rhino 2-disc version-- which makes no sense to me whatsoever. The tracks are the studio version of "Forgive Her Anything" (only the demo version is to be included) and "A Town Called Big Nothing (Really Big Nothing" (as well as its follow-up, Track 18 "Return To Big Nothing") from the movie "Straight To Hell."

    What the hell? This is like having to buy both the Criterion and MGM versions of "This is Spinal Tap," but as Rhino is now the direct licensor of the EC catalog, it makes no sense that all of the bonus tracks from the earlier release aren't on this. It's one thing to upgrade -- and sell the older versions off -- but another to have to hold on to two separate versions of the same bloody record just to get those few tracks. I'm writing this with the same vitriol as some of those posting to that crazy "1776" thread in Software.

    Anyone have any further/additional news on this? Kevin, do you know?
     
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    NPR's Fresh Air program, hosted by Terry Gross, had a retrospective of Elvis Costello interviews last week to coincide with the Rhino reissues.

    All Fresh Air interviews are archived at the NPR site, so...

     
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  11. Jimmy Nugent

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    Quite a few of the "exclusive" tracks have already been released on various cd singles, so they are not exactly "exclusive". I could let it slide if they were referring to official full length album releases, but that theory won't float either. Leave My Kitten Alone , Pour Water On A Drowning Man , and Running Out Of Fools were all released on Kojak Variety . Not exclusive by any stretch of the imagination. Don't get me wrong- I am incredibly excited about these reissues. Hell, this will be the third repurchase on most of these and on a couple, the fourth (had to spring for the Ryko gold versions of Imperial Bedroom and King Of America as well as thier standard issue counterparts). Just a stickler for the details I guess. I find it hard to believe that a web site dedicated to all things Costello would overlook these glaring inaccuracies.
    Having successfully vented my spleen, my last comment is:
    Bring on the rest of the reissues!
    And thus concludes my 3.5 cent contribution-
    Jimmy
     
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  13. Mark Cappelletty

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    I hope you're right, Kevin; my only concern was that there was no odds-and-sods-style compilation from Ryko. I'm going to hold on to my Ryko Blood & Chocolate regardless.

    Here's the supposed release schedule from the EC Website you linked to (great site!):

    2/19/02 Wave 2 - TYM (This Year's Model), BAC (Blood & Chocolate) and BY (Brutal Youth)

    TBA 2002 Wave 3 - AF (Armed Forces), IB (Imperial Bedroom) and PTC (Punch The Clock)

    TBA 2002 Wave 4 - GH (Get Happy), Trust and TL (Taking Liberties???)

    TBA 2002 Wave 5 - AB (Almost Blue), KOA (King of America), and KV (Kojak Variety)

    TBA 2003 Wave 6 - GCW (Goodbye Cruel World), MLAR (Mighty Like a Rose)

    TBA 2003 Wave 7 - TJL (The Juliet Letter).

    I'm willing to bet Wave 5 gets pushed back to 2003.

    And does anyone know if the rest of the Ramones catalog is to be released/reissued by Rhino as well?
     
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    Regarding the conversation a few weeks back re: the Taking Liberties comp of EC, here's the quote from an article on www.rhino.com
    These reissues are coming out in thematically related
    groups of three. What are those themes?
    The first three - My Aim Is True, Spike, All This
    Useless Beauty - are what I like to call the
    beginning, middle, and latest chapter in his career.
    They also reflect an eclectic and varied solo sound.
    They’re in marked contrast to the next three - This
    Year’s Model, Blood & Chocolate and Brutal Youth ,-
    which feature the Attractions’ more aggressive sound.
    The next three - Imperial Bedroom, Armed Forces, and
    Mighty Like A Rose - show off the more elegant,
    detailed pop textures. And then the next three - Get
    Happy!!, Trust, and Punch The Clock - show you the
    evolution of The Attractions from ’60s soul to ’80s
    pop and R&B. The fifth group - King Of America, Kojak
    Variety, and Almost Blue - shows off an American-roots
    side of Elvis. The Juliet Letters, Goodbye Cruel
    World, and an expanded Taking Liberties won’t be part
    of a group, because they each stand on their own
     
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    According to pauseandplay.com, we'll see the next set (Imperial Bedroom/Armed Forces/Mighty Like A Rose) in the fall.

    Ryan
     
  18. Paul D Young

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    The fall of 2002? It seems like I've been waiting forever!
     
  19. Mark Cappelletty

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    Update:
    On 11/19, Rhino will reissue "Armed Forces," "Imperial Bedroom" and "Mighty Like A Rose," all with more bonus tracks than you can shake a stick at:
    http://www.elviscostello.info/bonus_tracks.html
    The only discrepancy seems to be on "Imperial Bedroom," the Ryko version of which has the studio version of "Seconds To Pleasure" as a bonus track, whereas the Rhino version uses the demo.
    Should be great.
     
  20. Paul D Young

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    Well, today I received my 2 disc versions of Elvis Costello's Trust and Get Happy!.
    I got them from www.sirendisc.com
    They are on Edsel Records imported from the U.K.
    WTF is going on? I cannot find any info on Rhino releases of these discs.
     

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