I've always been intrigued by these two companies. They seem to be at roughly the same quality/price level and yet I hear very little about comparisons to each other. Denon (big effort on their part to be in the home theater industry) seems to dominate the high end receiver business. I'm wondering how Onkyo's top line compares with say Denon's 4802 since I don't think Onkyo has anything to compete with Denon's 5803 yet. Also, where does Integra's receivers fit in? They don't appear to be any better than Onkyo's top models, but I figured they launched the line for the same reason Toyota launched Lexus, to get a new name people would spend more money on.