Is "Monster" speaker wire worth the extra $$$??

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  1. Gary_O

    Gary_O Stunt Coordinator

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    I was wondering how much of a difference monster speaker wire XP makes a difference. It was like $35 for 50 ft at best buy, which means it will prob cost close to $100 to wire my system when i hook it up. als the guy at best buy was shilling a Monster Digital Fiber Optic Cable and Monster Bass 300 for the subwoofer.

    Do I really need this and is it worth the extra $$$ as I'm already going to be out $1000 - $1200 as it is on the receiver and speakers.

    Thanks for any advice you can give
     
  2. Sean L

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    I just went through the very same dilemma. In short, you can do alot better on pricing...I went through the same stick shock at the local Best Buy and Good Guys.
    check out my thread at http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htfo...hreadid=110374
    Good Luck,
    Sean in Nor Cal
     
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    i had speaker wire from a local 'home' type store and was happy with it.
    then i decided to try some of this monster xp wire. i don't know if it's in my head or not, but i can swear that i hear a difference. i have it hooked to my mains & centre and the sound is different, better.
     
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    technically, there is nothing really different about monsters speaker cable then your standard home depot special. It's all copper. I was reading some time ago that a lab did research on these " audiophile grade " speaker cable. They found that there was a SLIGHT improvement, but they needed a scope to see that. No human ear can notice the difference.

    Other than that, they come with a cool jacket and good quality connectors ( bananas, pins, etc etc )


    Save your money and just get the home depot stuff and put quality connectors on it.
     
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    I just bought my second 250' roll of 12 AWG speaker wire from Home Depot. The wire is just fine, but the jacket its sheathed in can be a pain in the rump when trying to separate the leads.

    Still, for $63/250' its not bad at all.
     
  6. Brett DiMichele

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    Go to www.partsexpress.com and order a 100' Spool of
    Sound King 12Awg it's a 99.999% Oxygen Free Copper in a
    fine strand configuration bound inside a clear PVC Jacket.
    The cable is high quality and your looking at $30.00 for a
    100' spool. It has served me vert well.
     
  7. Nick L

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    You won't notice a difference so much in speaker wire. But there are huge differences in quality over video cables and coax/optical cables when you spend a little extra money. I went from a generic component cable that came with my dvd player to a monster video1 component cable, and then from monster video1 to monster Z series and both times there was very noticeable differences. You don't necessarily have to use monster, but quality cabling can make a difference on some things.
     
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    Even most people who tell you that cable quality does make a difference will admit that Monster cable is overpriced. There are other brands that will give you much better value. I personally prefer the 12AWG wire from Parts Express over the thinner, more expensive Monster cable.
     
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    Many discussions on Harmonic Discord regarding using the THHN wire from Lowes and Home Depot. In 10g and 6g.

    Guys with $6000 speaker systems are swearing by it and it cost $300 for 500 feet. (That is single strand so effectively it is 250 "stereo feet")

    It is being compared with speaker cables costing in excess of $50 a foot.

    I built some of my own and they sound great. Go to Radio Shack and get some Spades or Banana plugs along with some "heat shrink tubing" and you can have some fun and save money too.

    I would also check the DIY section of this forum for ideas.

    FYI.

    John
     
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    I second the sound king choice from Partsexpress.com - if you don't want to go that route then you can get a pretty decent deal on cables at http://www.accessories4less.com too.
     
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    When I finished my basement, I ran monster cable for all speakers except 1 surround, where I went short the night before the dry wall guys were coming in. I quick went to Home Depot for in-wall cable, same gauge as the monster. I cannot tell the difference, other than I could have wired the rest for way less than the monster [​IMG] .
     
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    I use monster cables & surge protectors for everything. The XP speaker wire do make a difference IMO.
     
  14. Pete Gia

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    I bought "home-depot" speaker wire manufactured by WOODS,because it was cheap,and "just for surrounds. Guess what! I just replaced it with Monster XP. The cheap wire actually corroded inside. (the whole length of the wire,not just at the connections TURNED GREEN!! Good Luck, Pete
     
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    and if you don't like the clear pvc you can always go with something from www.knukonceptz.com with 12 gauge being 0.80/ft for twisted or 0.40/ft untwisted. Knock youself out [​IMG]
     
  16. Brett DiMichele

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    Pete,

    The reason the wire turned green was because of a chemical
    reaction between the jacketing material and the copper. But
    you said it was "cheap" perhaps it was not Oxygen Free
    Copper. Sound King is...

    I have run my SoundKing 12Awg Bi Wires (Now Bi Amped) for
    2 years and the only place they turned green was at the
    end. But even the best wire in the world will eventually
    turn green all the way along it's length, Yes even those
    Expensive Monster Z Series Reference cables will turn green
    in 10 years time.. It's only the nature of the beast.. Copper
    and Oxygen do not go together..
     
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    Up until recently i would have agreed that there is little to no difference in cables.
    But since i started working in a hifi-store i can guarantee you there's a really big difference between cables.
    I tried 3 sets of cables on the same speaker/amp combination recently, and all 3 sound clearly different.
    Amp: Classé CAP-151
    Speakers: B&W Nautilus 803
    Cables:
    1) Van Den Hul - The Clearwater
    2) Monitor cable - Cobra
    3) Monster cable - Z1
    The monster cable sounds far more detailed, the difference between the Van Den Hul and the Monitor is less obvious.
    Offcourse the Monster cable is about 3x as expensive as the other two. [​IMG]
     
  18. Pete Gia

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    Hey Brett--- I was thinking the same thing---A chemical reaction between the wire and insulation. Who knows, The Monster XP I used to replace the corroded wire may even turn green quicker!!
     
  19. Brett DiMichele

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    Pete,

    It probably won't turn green quicker. Monster generally
    uses specific materials for jacketing that don't interact
    with the conductor material. Monster is not a "Bad" product
    and actually in the grand scheme of things Monster Cables
    are cheap even the Z Reference cables at $300.00 or more a
    pair are CHEAP when compared to something like Nordost Red
    Dawn ($1000.00 +) or something like Tara Labs "The One"
    ($8000.00 per meter each).

    Monster makes a good cable but it's just a big expensive
    for some of us. I think you can find as good of a cable
    as Monster produces for less money. And are the Tara Labs
    cables worth the price of a new Chevy Cavalier for a 1 meter
    pair?

    Of course they are not "worth" it.. But if you have the money
    for a 16K pair of cables, chances are you probably have
    20 grand or 50 grand just in amplification and 3 grand in
    a CD transport and 10K in a Pre/Pro and 40K in speakers and
    it all comes down to bragging.. "Yeah I have 16 thousand
    dollars worth of cables".....

    Parts Express recently came out with thier own line of speaker
    cables under the Dayton Audio brand name that look very well
    constructed and are very affordable. AR also makes tons of
    speaker cables, flat, round you name it.. Good stuff and affordable.
     

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