Is it worth getting a Laserdisc player for SW and IJ?

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  1. Eric T

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    I've never had a Laserdisc player before, but since it seems like it will be a very long time before Star Wars and Indiana Jones are available on DVD, I thought I might try to pick this stuff up on eBay. Is it worth it? Or should I just try to get some widescreen VHS tapes?
     
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    It would not be worth it to me if your only interested in Star Wars and Indy Jones. Owning a LD player will give you access to some great stuff out there that will never see the light of day on a DVD transfer. 70/80 jazz and rock concert footage and 50/60 horror flicks is what got me interested in Lasers.
     
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    I think it's worth it. I bought my first LD player about 6 months or so ago just to have the original star wars trilogy. I had no intention of getting any other lasers other than SW and ET. However, since then I've bought about 30 other LD. The great thing about LD is that you can get so many great movies on laser from ebay much cheaper than you can get the DVD's from like Best Buy. I've bought lots of movies on laser that I wouldn't have on dvd because it would have cost too much.

    While many on the forum will tell you to just buy a cheap player, I would say to get the best one you can possibly afford. The reason is that if you do start buying more lasers (which is likely), then you may not be happy with the quality of a lesser player. I first bought a Pioneer elite 52 and was a little disappointed with the video quality. I then bought a Pioneer elite 79 brand new off of ebay, which was a big improvment over my 52. I would say to go for it, because we know the SW trilogy won't be on dvd for at least three years, and even then will likely not be the original versions. Just make sure you get a player you will be happy with.

    Greg
     
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    Everybody here keeps telling me to just go ahead and pick up a LD player and then I won't feel so bad about the lack of the SW Trilogy on DVD.

    However, I'm not convinced that that will be the case. My current system is optimized for anamorphic DVD, and while I realize that LD beats the pants off VHS Widescreen, I'm just not sure if its enough of a quality boost to warrant trying to maintain what is now an obsolete format just to view these six films in a (still) non-anamorphic form.

    I do own these films on VHS Widescreen, and I'll just try to limp along with these renditions until the inevitable day when these films finally show up on the DVD and/or HD-DVD format.

    And I really believe that Mr. Lucas is doing his fans a terrible disservice at this time since many millions of us are being "forced" to think about purchasing into an essentially obsolete technology just to view his films, when we really shouldn't have to. All of these movies should have been available in this format by this time. (BTW, 2007 will be the 30th Anniversary of the original Star Wars movie ... and the 10th birthday of the DVD format.)
     
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    Eric,
    I totally agree with Greg. I also bought a used Pioneer LD player just before Christmas for the Star Wars & Indy Jones trilogys. But I too realized that there are some great titles out there on LD aside from these. For example, I bought the CAV Criterion of HALLOWEEN which has an amazing commentary track, and a DTS/THX GOLDENEYE which sounds frickin' amazing!![​IMG] Bottom line, I would totally recommend buying a player for many reasons. Hope you do, and enjoy![​IMG]
     
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    Joseph Bolus, just because there are no new releases
    on a format, don't make it obsolete. With a great LD player you will get a superb picture quality, I KNOW!
     
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    So now I understand that LD can't give you an anamorphic image, but are the films presented in widescreen format? I have a Mits 55" WS RPTV, so I assume that I would have to view LD material in zoom mode, correct?

    Since DTS was mentioned, does that mean that the LD players have digital audio outputs?

    Sorry for the simple questions, but I know almost nothing about this format, I just became interested from reading this forum.
     
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    Just slightly off-topic, but I've never seen this discussed:

    Why is releasing Star Wars and Indy on DVD such an issue, when they were released on LD with, presumably, little or no hesitation?

    Jon
     
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    Joseph: The widescreen Indy trilogy is easy to come by at a reasonable price - maybe $80-$90 for all three, typical, right now. Of the three, for some reason Temple of Doom is the most in demand and normally get the highest bids.

    A very large number of LD's were not presented OAR - a much higher percentage than DVD. Even when widescreen, LD's very often weren't widescreen enough, mostly because of resolution loss. DVD has got LD by the short hairs when it comes to OAR presentation.

    As for the original question, only you can answer. LD has the best picture and sound (by far!) over tape. What's that worth to you? But don't do it just for these two trilogies. Look over what's being offered on Ebay. See a lot of other stuff you might want? If so, then go for it.
     
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    The cost of the LD's of those alone is 3 times more than the player. I would say 'no'. However, like others have stated many many films that have yet to be released on DVD (ie. Wyatt Earp, Concerts, Clash of the Titians, etc.) can be enjoyed now. Also, many Disney titles that are platinum titles for DVD (like Bambi, Cinderella, Aladdin, etc) can be enjoyed now because it will be many years before we see them on DVD. Don't let overhyped movies make the decision for you. Consider the whole picture.

    John
     
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    NO!
    Stop buying laserdisc players. Stop it, dammit.
    I'm sick and tired of seeing prices rise on virtually all good titles that are not on DVD.
    Give a guy a break, OK?
     
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    Quote:

    "Considering that LDs are no longer made and that the father of the LD player - Pioneer - quit making them, I think we can say with great certainty that LD is DEAD; and, yes, by definition, obsolete. Time to face reality, my friend."

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    We know that we can no longer buy new LDs and it's getting harder to find new players. However, we can buy used hardware and software and we can enjoy the collections we've already got.

    Is LD obsolete or dead? That discussion is pointless, IMO. That's just a question of how you define the meaning of these words. I repeat: We know that we can no longer buy new LDs and it's getting harder to find new players. However, we can buy used hardware and software and we can enjoy the collections we've already got.
     

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