Is it time to talk about coronavirus?

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Certainly, no one *wants* to be tested with an unpleasant “probe your brain” process. And there’s 25% of the general population that tell pollsters they believe Bill Gates is putting nano-trackers in vaccines. But polls keep showing that the great majority of people are in favor of testing, masks, stay at home, caution. And NYC and Indiana and Washington and other places show that people are willing participants in random-sample studies of infections.
LOL - The Bill Gates of old most certainly would have but Bill version 10 [or whatever revision he's currently at] seems to be more or less benevolent.

Regarding testing, this is one of those situations where I would absolutely love to be wrong.
 

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Admittedly I turned the TV off to play some guitar and then play some Destiny 2...but as I switched off the TV, CNN announced that after the commercial, the story they were moving to was "studies show there is a 50/50 chance that the person you're arguing about the coronavirus on the internet...is a bot!"

So, which one of you are bots? :D
Hell, the way things have been going, I wish I was a bot. :laugh:
 

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Latest numbers from New York State:
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(earlier dates available here)

23,282 confirmed fatalities -- 84 of which occurred just yesterday. Yesterday was also the first day in nearly two months that New York State had less than a hundred confirmed deaths from COVID-19.

In other news, the Mid-Hudson region, which was the hardest hit area of the state initially, only needs to meet one more criteria to begin reopening:
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Also NY is back to having a triple digit death increase. I think NY might be bouncing between double and triple digit increases for the next few days.
 
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Front page of this morning's New York Times:
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I found this token gesture by the NY Times moving, profound as well as deeply disturbing.

I applaud their effort to attempt to convey a sense of the massive volume of lost life as well as the preciousness of each individual lost to this thing.

It took four pages to memorialise 1000 victims, with the briefest of one-liners accompanying each... and that represented only 1% of the US toll.
 

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I fear that the total disregards of this past weekend, as seen on the national news, will soon prove to be a catastrophic and terrible lesson learned.
 
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Keep in mind it wasn’t a “total disregard”. It looks like the great majority of Americans stayed home and followed social guidelines. A significant minority did not. That will have serious consequences, creating outbreaks and will also harm people who are trying to stay safe. But will also be limited due to it being a minority and not a total disregard of all guidance.
 

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Keep in mind it wasn’t a “total disregard”. It looks like the great majority of Americans stayed home and followed social guidelines. A significant minority did not. That will have serious consequences, creating outbreaks and will also harm people who are trying to stay safe. But will also be limited due to it being a minority and not a total disregard of all guidance.
I gave you a “Like” because I respect both you and your larger overview of hope. And yes, there is a “but” that follows; yet not in the form to say that I am right or that you are wrong; as our immediate and, perhaps, varying circumstances to which we are dealing with this situation still poses mutual fears, concerns and an ongoing awareness to both our individual survival and that of the larger whole.

With that said; as we all here so fully well know by now; it takes only one asymptomatic person to infect upwards of 80+ people. When viewing the news footage of massive pool parties my head spins at the mathematical possibilities of future infections, spread and the gravity of work undone by those of us who have not yet left our watch and post.

Believe me, I fully understand the cabin fever aspects en masse, as I have circumnavigated the globe as a Merchant Marine. And, undoubtedly, my training and experience has given me certain edges of endurances not afforded to those who had busted out during this past weekend. Nonetheless, we have a very long way to go before we safely arrive in port; despite the illusion that comes from spying the sliver of an illuminated horizon, after many weeks of being at sea. Make no mistake, despite the bursting excitements of the crew, I know of no story in which someone forfeited the safety of the deck in order to dive into the ocean; as the swim to shore is guaranteed to take much longer and be rift with a whole new set of inherent dangers.

May everyone here continue within their daily exercises of self-protection, good practices and the consideration of others; as we are far from the time of relaxing our resolves and individual efforts.
 
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When I see people make choices like the pool parties and Memorial Day beach gatherings, I think of the wise words from the preeminent sage and philosopher Oscar Gamble...

 

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Everybody needs to keep in mind that 30% of the public believes there is no virus and/or probably 40% believes it is nothing more than a mild flu. When you consider this it is no surprise that these folks will disregard all life safety protocol and have no issue risking their own lives and have far less regard for the lives of others. In certain states more of these people reside than in others.
 
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Once a few more people get sick and die (i.e. a significant portion of the community), those numbers should change pretty quickly.
I honestly don't think that some people will admit that they're wrong at this point. They could be stepping over bodies in the streets and they'll just pretend it wasn't what it obviously was.
 

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Now I know it's common news practice to air the dumbest comments possible to drive their stories...but one particular one shocked me in terms of how uneducated this guy was as to how viruses spread. He was asked about not wearing a mask. His answer?

"If it's my time to go, it's my time to go."

That's great, clown. But that's not how this works. The mask protects others from you, in case you're a silent/super spreader (or become one). I don't care if you die (and judging by the guy's comments, it's not going to be a great loss to society) but I do care if you infect dozens of others who possibly will infect hundreds. All of them your unsuspecting victims.
 

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Now I know it's common news practice to air the dumbest comments possible to drive their stories...but one particular one shocked me in terms of how uneducated this guy was as to how viruses spread. He was asked about not wearing a mask. His answer?

"If it's my time to go, it's my time to go."

That's great, clown. But that's not how this works. The mask protects others from you, in case you're a silent/super spreader (or become one). I don't care if you die (and judging by the guy's comments, it's not going to be a great loss to society) but I do care if you infect dozens of others who possibly will infect hundreds. All of them your unsuspecting victims.
It's a hard mindset to change when it was drilled into the public at the outset of the pandemic that healthy people should not wear masks and people were actively discouraged from wearing them unless they had symptoms. Even today, people in high places are publicly ridiculing others on a daily basis for wearing a mask.

Give people two completely contrary sets of instructions, and they'll choose the one they'd prefer to follow rather than the one that's probably right.
 

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Now I know it's common news practice to air the dumbest comments possible to drive their stories...but one particular one shocked me in terms of how uneducated this guy was as to how viruses spread. He was asked about not wearing a mask. His answer?

"If it's my time to go, it's my time to go."

That's great, clown. But that's not how this works. The mask protects others from you, in case you're a silent/super spreader (or become one). I don't care if you die (and judging by the guy's comments, it's not going to be a great loss to society) but I do care if you infect dozens of others who possibly will infect hundreds. All of them your unsuspecting victims.
Yeah, if I get it, I'm young enough and healthy enough that statistically speaking, I will likely survive. However, I'm not a completely selfish asshole so I don't want to risk giving it to some old lady and putting her in the dirt.
 

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I was watching the same footage on CNN that Carlo referenced and I did ask myself whether the clips were 'selected' or if everyone they spoke with was as stupid as a bag of hammers. There were a couple of real 'gems' in that footage that made me think it must have been screened. It is sort of like a news version of that old routine where Jay Leno would interview people on the streets and air the most clueless answers to his questions. The responses to Leno's questions were amusing in a 'we're all in on the joke' sort of way, the real responses that the CNN reporters got at these various Memorial Day events concerning COVID-19 were just sad.

- Walter.
 

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