Is it time to eliminate motion menus?

Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by Dave H, Nov 9, 2002.

  1. Dave H

    Dave H Producer

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2000
    Messages:
    5,581
    Likes Received:
    208
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    I don't know about you, but I hate having to wait through motion menus (several seconds) just to access a scene. Static menus (ala Superbit) are much more efficient and I can acess scenes much faster. It seems motion menus are just gimmicks to "sell" the whole DVD concept to J6P. J6P can say, "Wow!" I don't mean to offend any non-J6P who happens to like motion menus, but hopefully you can see my point. I am just getting tired of having to wait through them and think they are pointless.
     
  2. Robert Crawford

    Robert Crawford Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 1998
    Messages:
    33,083
    Likes Received:
    8,133
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Location:
    Michigan
    Real Name:
    Robert
    Why do you assume that just the so called J6P consumers like the motion menus?




    Crawdaddy
     
  3. Tom_Bechet

    Tom_Bechet Second Unit

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    283
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    u are right, sometimes it is very annoying if u have to wait for all the animations to finish. But if studios would stop (universal and FOX) with their user prohibitions then we would be able to switch between tracks and subtitles without having to go through endless menus.
    I like them nevertheless. It all adds to the presentation of a disc. But the format should allow to have static fast menus for those who want to get on with it and moving menus and transitions for those who like it.
    HTH
     
  4. James Reader

    James Reader Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2002
    Messages:
    1,465
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I like how the Spider-Man disc has the quick menu where you can access everything on the disc in a single click!
     
  5. Adam_WM

    Adam_WM Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2001
    Messages:
    1,628
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I love motion menus. Menus are one of my favorite things about DVD's. However, I do like the ones where you can just hit menu and got to the end result.
     
  6. Dave H

    Dave H Producer

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2000
    Messages:
    5,581
    Likes Received:
    208
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
     
  7. Robert Crawford

    Robert Crawford Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 1998
    Messages:
    33,083
    Likes Received:
    8,133
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Location:
    Michigan
    Real Name:
    Robert
    I like them and I don't consider myself whatever a J6P type is and just because you don't see the point of them doesn't make your assumption correct.




    Crawdaddy
     
  8. Jeffrey Gray

    Jeffrey Gray Second Unit

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2001
    Messages:
    488
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I think motion menus should stay...but I think one should have the ability to skip the intro animation and go straight to the main menu by simply pressing a button (actually, this is done on some DVDs...on some discs, if you hit the "menu" button during the intro animation, it skips directly to the main menu, bypassing the intro animation).
     
  9. Dave H

    Dave H Producer

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2000
    Messages:
    5,581
    Likes Received:
    208
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Robert,
    Obviously you must know what a J6P is in order to make the judgement about yourself that you are NOT one. [​IMG] There has been discussions on this forum about J6P and just what makes one many times before.
    I am not saying that one is or has to be a J6P to like motion menus. I am just getting very tired of having to wait several seconds in order to skip to a chapter or scene. If they are going to use them, cutting down on the amount of time it takes would be a bonus. In my opinion, it's getting very tiring going through these and I think it's just added unnecessary fluff to try and impress people. I do understand some people like them, however.
     
  10. Damin J Toell

    Damin J Toell Producer

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2001
    Messages:
    3,762
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Brooklyn, NY
    Real Name:
    Damin J. Toell
     
  11. Robert Crawford

    Robert Crawford Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 1998
    Messages:
    33,083
    Likes Received:
    8,133
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Location:
    Michigan
    Real Name:
    Robert

    I know what I am and I definitely don't need stereotypical designations to label my love for home theater and movies. Also, I found several of those discussions divisive in nature and something I don't totally agree with personally.





    Crawdaddy
     
  12. Joel C

    Joel C Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 1999
    Messages:
    1,633
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I often like to listen to commentary tracks while falling asleep, and the menus that loop constantly (meaning my player stays on all night) are annoying. I'd rather have menus that were animated, but didn't loop like that.
     
  13. Steve Christou

    Steve Christou Long Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2000
    Messages:
    15,820
    Likes Received:
    417
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Location:
    Manchester, England
    Real Name:
    Steve Christou
    I'm so used to animated menus that I get really annoyed when I see a static photo with captions instead.
    I've recently seen the menus to Attack of the Clones, wow, fabulous, state of the art, really gets you into the mood to see the film sooner rather than later.[​IMG]
     
  14. Mark Walker

    Mark Walker Producer
    Supporter

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 1999
    Messages:
    3,008
    Likes Received:
    759
    Trophy Points:
    4,110
    I don't like motion menus, epspecially when they display
    the best parts of the film (which they usually do) or
    give away crucial information.
    Hmmm...DVDs (on the spur of the moment)
    that give (throw) away the best shots:
    Spiderman
    The Matrix

    A DVD's menu that RUINS the movie for newbies:
    Planet of the Apes
    Then there are the noisy OBNOXIOUS !-!-!-L-O-U-D-!-!-! menus that would make
    one jump off a building if subjected to for more
    than a minute:
    Hairspray
    Gigi
    My Fair Lady

    (These DVDs' authoring guys should be tortured by having
    to watch their motion menus for 3 hours straight...no
    doubt they'd kill themselves before the three hours was over.)
    There are a few motion menus that are nice, and
    subtle, that I like, but they are few and far between.
    Notorious
    Spellbound
    and
    Casablanca come to mind.
    Finally, a DVD with still menus, that are crisp,
    clear, and elegant:
    Black Narcissus
    I'm sorry, but the "neat-o" factor on motion menus
    is lost on me after the first time I pop the disc
    in the player.
    Mark
     
  15. Joel C

    Joel C Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 1999
    Messages:
    1,633
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    In some ways I like the Spider-Man menu. But, as they say on the commentary, it's the "money shot" and seeing it in an endless loop while I wait for everyone to get settled, ect. undercuts the impact a bit.
     
  16. Kenneth Cummings

    Kenneth Cummings Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2001
    Messages:
    852
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Some animated menus go on too long (CTHD), but most tend to be at a good pace. Ones like Star Wars are quick and fun (since they don't always have the same scene the next time you pop the disc in), along with what I heard, Lord of the Rings EE.

    And I can't see DVD dropping animated menus, as watching a old dvd of Mulan the other day, it was just jarring to see just some still background when I get done with the Disney DVD crap.
     
  17. Neil Joseph

    Neil Joseph Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 1998
    Messages:
    8,332
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Real Name:
    Neil Joseph
    I will definitely have to check out this Spiderman menu easter egg. This is one smart sounding way to bypass the animated menus for people that wish to do so. For me, it does not matter but I do wish they would at least put the buttons in place rather than have to wait for all of the animation(s) to finish before making the buttons available.
     
  18. Brian E

    Brian E Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2000
    Messages:
    1,636
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    While I'm not a fan of all animated menus if done right they are nice IMO. The super loud MGM lion bothers me more than a menu that takes a few seconds to run. Now I will say that there have been a few animated menus that annoyed the hell out of me.

    It kind of bothers me also that a whole segment of people are getting lumped in as supposed J6P's like they often are on these forums.
     
  19. Seth Paxton

    Seth Paxton Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 1998
    Messages:
    7,585
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
     
  20. Clinton McClure

    Clinton McClure Casual Enthusiast
    Supporter

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 1999
    Messages:
    4,505
    Likes Received:
    458
    Trophy Points:
    4,110
    Location:
    Central Arkansas
    Real Name:
    Clint
    I personally dislike the animated menus and see it as a marketing gimmick as well. Gimme static menus anyday.
     

Share This Page