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Is 1939 overrated? What are some other classic years?

Discussion in 'Movies' started by benbess, Jul 14, 2017.

  1. 41 Jul 17, 2017
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    Robert Crawford

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    I remember a little film called Five Came Back that preceded The High and the Mighty. If you have to quote Pauline Kael to defend your opinion then I'll let you have the last word on this matter. I was not a fan of her's as I viewed Kael as a hateful person with some of her reviews!
     
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    I'm sure she was a huge fan of It's a Wonderful Life. <_<
     
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    My favorite film years :

    1957, 1962, 1971, 1979
     
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    The Nutty Professor too!
     
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    1994 is pretty spectacular year for movies.

    Pulp Fiction
    Shawshank Redemption
    Forrest Gump
    Ed Wood
    Quiz Show
    The Lion King
    Leon The Professional
    Legends of the Fall
     
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    Vic Pardo

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    So, MR. SMITH GOES TO WASHINGTON is "junk," but you love THE HIGH AND THE MIGHTY, AIRPORT, THE CROWDED SKY and SKYJACKED. Hmmm....
     
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    I carefully re-read my original post to see where it says I love Airport, The Crowded Sky and Skyjacked (why did you leave off Zero Hour?) but I couldn't find it. Perhaps you could point it out to me? Yes I adore The High And The Mighty which I think is a legitimately fine film but the others are unpretentious entertainments which don't try to pass themselves off as important films that are actually about something like the sentimental white bread twaddle of of MSGTW. It's exactly that kind of crap that got us ..... well, if I go any further I'm going into politics which is (justifiably) taboo on this forum so I'll stop.
     
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    Some time ago, the Nuart Theatre in Los Angeles had a film series under the banner
    "Hollywood's Greatest Year." This was the year they chose.
     
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    I left off ZERO HOUR because it's a genuinely good little movie, tight, concise, dramatic without being stupid and a good deal shorter than the other ones you mentioned. (THE HIGH AND THE MIGHTY is almost twice as long!) It also served as the direct inspiration for AIRPLANE!, so it gets props for that. The other films you mentioned are just bloated mediocrities and while I acknowledge that you didn't specifically say you "love" them, I was astounded that you'd compare MR. SMITH unfavorably to any of them, which is what you seemed to be doing. You might not like the ideas in MR. SMITH--and there was plenty of controversy about the film at the time it came out--but at least Mr. Capra had a vision about how American democracy should work and sought to portray his ideas in a bold, cinematic, and compelling fashion that tried to remind people what we would soon be fighting for in the coming war. Was it a tad unrealistic? Sure, like so many Hollywood movies about politics. Was it a bit too idealistic? Sure, but I'll take idealism over the mind-numbing stupidity of THE HIGH AND THE MIGHTY, which gave me no reason to care about anything happening on the screen and was an absolute chore to sit through--and it's two-and-a-half hours! (Claire Trevor had a few funny moments, though.)
     
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    Near the beginning of this thread someone posted that none of the past thirty years would qualify, so I took that as a challenge to pick one.

    I'm picking a year that I enjoyed a great many of the releases:

    1997
    Boogie Nights
    Good Will Hunting
    Wag the Dog
    Mrs. Brown
    Titanic
    L.A. Confidential
    Gattaca
    Men in Black
    The Full Monty
    The Sweet Hereafter
    Air Force One
    Face/Off
    My Best Friend's Wedding
    The Fifth Element
    Donnie Brasco
    Lost Highway
    Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery
    The Cube
    As Good as It Gets
    Jackie Brown
     
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    I'd put '33 second behind '39. Warner Bros. alone turned out so many masterpieces in that year.

    I'd round out my Top Five with 1941, 1959 and 1967.

    Mike S.
     
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    Well, our views are so completely opposite on the two films in contention (THATM and MSGTW) that that there's really no point in discussing them. I feel toward MSGTW exactly how you feel about THATM, "mind numbing stupidity with no reason to care about anything happening on screen and an absolute chore to sit through" :) Cinematic is the very last word I would apply to the stiff MSGTW and about as bold as a bowl of mashed potatoes. There's a reason Capra's films are referred to by cynics as Capracorn and MSGTW is a prime example (along with abominations like It's A Wonderful Life, Meet John Doe, Mr. Deeds Goes To Town) but I could write paragraphs on why THATM is a superior film but we're not going to change each other's minds and we've (I?) derailed the thread enough. But I do appreciate that you took Zero Hour seriously rather than relegating it to "camp" (whatever that is, I was born deficient of the camp gene). But a final word that should come as no surprise, I infinitely prefer the 1973 musical remake of Lost Horizon to the numbing original. If I'm going to sit through the horrors of Shangri La, let me sing and dance! :)
     
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    Thanks, Mr. T. Agree to disagree.

    Getting back to the topic of the thread, I find it intriguing that the three years I've seen the most movies from are 1953, 1967 and 1972. 1967 is one I'm focusing on this year because it was 50 years ago and there were so many different things going on, cinematically, around the world that year. Italian westerns finally getting released in the U.S.; nascent kung fu films being made in Hong Kong (ONE-ARMED SWORDSMAN); some great samurai films in Japan (SAMURAI REBELLION, KOJIRO), lots of stuff happening in European arthouse cinema, although my favorite Euro film from that year is probably Jean-Pierre Melville's LE SAMOURAI; Hammer horror and sci-fi in England; and in the U.S., the counterculture penetrating the dying Hollywood studio system with films like Roger Corman's THE TRIP and Mike Nichols' THE GRADUATE edging out Elvis vehicles like CLAMBAKE and EASY COME, EASY GO. THE DIRTY DOZEN, BONNIE AND CLYDE and the "Man with No Name" trilogy all sparked controversy with new, more explicit depictions of violence. Plus: my favorite Bond film came out that year: YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE, the film I've probably seen more times than any other.

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    I don't think 1939 is overrated. Besides, that year saw the release of one of my favorite of all time: The Rules of the Game.

    I'm not exactly down on 21st century cinema. 2006, for example was a year boasting a very strong group of films and it was just a scant 11 years ago:

    Children of Men
    Pan's Labyrinth
    The Lives of Others
    The Return
    Volver
    United 93
    The Proposition
    After The Wedding
    L'Enfant
    The Death of Mr. Lazarescu
    The Departed
    Inside Man
    Tristram Shandy: A Cock & Bull Story
    Brick
    Half Nelson
    Inland Empire
    Casino Royale
    The Prestige
    The Queen
    Once
    The Fountain
    Through A Scanner Darkly
    Perfume: The Story Of A Murderer
    Babel (Don't like it, but many did, including Oscar)
    Stranger Than Fiction
    Old Joy
    The Good Shepherd
    A Prairie Home Companion
    Borat
    The Devil Wears Prada
    Dreamgirls
    Cars
    Happy Feet
    V for Vendetta
    The Last King Of Scotland
     
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    Since I'm on a roll, I'll also nominate 1974 as a significant year for cinema based on 5 films and 3 directors:

    Chinatown
    The Conversation
    The Godfather Pt2
    Young Frankenstein
    Blazing Saddles


    If you need more than 5:

    Swept Away
    A Woman Under The Influence
    Lacomb, Lucien
    The Parallax View
    Ali: Fear Eats The Soul
    Bring Me The head of Alfredo Garcia
    Harry & Tonto
    Thieves Like Us
    The Taking of Pelham 123
    California Splt
    Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore
    The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser
    Scenes From A Marriage
    Sugarland Express
    Texas Chainsaw Massacre
    White Dawn
     
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    Surprised nobody's mentioned 1977:

    Star Wars
    Close Encounters
    Annie Hall
    Saturday Night Fever
    The Spy Who Loved Me
    Smokey and the Bandit

    So far....probably 2017. ;-)
     
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    Yesterday, Eddie Muller stated on Noir Alley TCM that 1950 is the greatest year in film history. That's very debatable to say the least, but the following list take from AFI's site has some really excellent to good films on it. Noting the number of film noirs and crime films that came out in 1950, I can see why a film noir expert like Muller would have such a high opinion of 1950. Some of my favorites that might not be classified as good films too are on this list and I kept them on it. Some of these films were definitely filmed in 1949 and probably had a limited release date in late 1949, but AFI has them listed as 1950 films so perhaps they didn't have their general release until 1950. Anyhow, another great year of cinema. My opinion, of course.:)


    All About Eve

    All the King's Men

    Ambush

    American Guerrilla in the Philippines

    Annie Get Your Gun

    Armored Car Robbery

    The Asphalt Jungle

    Battleground

    The Big Lift

    Black Hand

    Borderline

    Born to Be Bad

    The Breaking Point

    Bright Leaf

    Broken Arrow

    Caged

    Cheaper by the Dozen

    Conspirator

    Convicted

    D.O.A.

    The Damned Don't Cry

    Dancing in the Dark

    Dark City

    Devil's Doorway

    Dial 1119

    East Side, West Side

    Father of the Bride

    The File on Thelma Jordon

    The Furies

    The Glass Menagerie

    Gun Crazy

    The Gunfighter

    Harvey

    In a Lonely Place

    Joan of Arc

    Julius Caesar

    King Solomon's Mines

    Kiss Tomorrow Goodbye

    A Lady Without Passport

    Malaya

    The Men

    Mister 880

    My Foolish Heart

    Mystery Street

    Night and the City

    No Man of Her Own

    No Way Out

    Outrage

    Panic in the Streets

    Quicksand

    Right Cross

    Rio Grande

    Rocky Mountain

    Samson and Delilah

    Sands of Iwo Jima

    Second Chance

    The Secret Fury

    711 Ocean Drive

    Shadow on the Wall

    Stage Fright

    The Sundowners

    Sunset Blvd.

    The Third Man

    Three Came Home

    To Please a Lady

    Treasure Island

    Twelve O'Clock High

    Two Flags West

    Union Station

    Wagon Master

    Walk Softly, Stranger

    The West Point Story

    When Willie Comes Marching Home

    Where Danger Lives

    Where the Sidewalk Ends

    Whirlpool

    The White Tower

    Winchester '73

    Woman on the Run

    The Yellow Cab Man

    Young Man with a Horn
     
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    IMHO, the 10 greatest "years" ever put to film are as follows:​

    The Best Years of Our Lives
    My Favorite Year
    The Impossible Years
    The Year of Living Dangerously
    The Yearling

    1492
    1776
    1900
    2001
    2010

    :rolleyes:

     
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    Happy to read that The Rules of the Game is one of their favorite and i still have the Criterion laserdisc released many years ago.
     
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    Born Yesterday is not on that list and should be. And Summer Stock and Three Little Words deserve just as much a place on the list as Young Man with a Horn. And don't forget about Disney's Cinderella.
     

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