International Film Recommendations ?

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  1. Manus

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    I moved this thread from the Hidef area wher Id put it by mistake.Hopefully more luck here [​IMG]

    I'm fed up with partisan Bluray supporter stickers before the format has even launched and +50 page threads that leave me more confused than when I started ,the rush towards a High ( even better than the real thing ! ) Definition future hasn't floated my boat (yet?)

    So I've spent most of this last year stocking up on True Classics like Hitchcock Boxsets , King Kong, Ben Hur, Film Noir and Warner Gangster Collection and the upcoming Tough Guys Collection , John Ford and John Wayne sets and of course Double Indemnity and the excellent Prisoner of Shark Island.

    To further distance myself from yet another pointless and unneccessary format war and because ( in the spirit of Hitchcock) I've always been very anti Region Coding and the using of (a lack of ) subtitles to enforce it, I'm looking for some World Cinema suggestions preferably on good quality dvd discs.I'm pretty much open to anything but some examples of what I have already include :

    Downfall (Germany)
    Amelie,Brotherhood of the Wolf (France)
    Ran,Kagemusha,Casshern,Audition,Phone (Japan)
    The Eye ( Thailand)
    R-Point,Silmido,Oldboy,Sympathy for Mr.Vengeance etc ( South Korea)
    The Dish ,Rabbit Proof Fence (Australia)
    Night Watch (Russia)
    Hero,House of Flying Daggers (China)
    Criterion ( Just about anything )
    Any old Classic Films that may be available only in a region different to its originating one.

    I regularly browse through Gary Toozes Dvdbeaver 'Why go region free ' section but if anyone has any recommendations for films that viewed as being exceptionally good/enjoyable I'd be very grateful


    ~M~
     
  2. Irina

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    These are some of the French obvious 'must have's that come to mind.

    Here are some great French silents:

    1. Fantomas (R2, UK):
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000CQK0FW

    2. Judex (R1):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001Y4MJA

    3. Les Vampires (R1):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/6305837147

    Here are some great examples of the French poetic realism:
    1. Hotel Du Norde (R2, UK):
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000E6UXY8

    2. Le Jour Se Leve (R2, France, removable subtitles):
    http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005NFS0

    3. Port of Shadows (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00026L74U

    4. La Bete Humaine (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000C8Q8ZQ

    5. The Jean Vigo Collection (R2, UK):
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00009Z52C

    Some other examples of French classics:

    1. Wages of Fear (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000AQKUH2

    2. Le Trou:
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005NFZA

    3. Casque D'Or (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006HC0GY

    4. Touches Par Au Grisbi (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006HC0I2

    5. Forbidden Games (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BC8SWE

    6. Children on Paradise (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005T30I

    7. Grand IllusionCriterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0780020707

    8. Pepe Le Moko (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00007CVS3

    9. Beauty and the Beast (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00007L4I6

    10. Rififi (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005A8TX

    11. Diabolique (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0780021940

    12. Quai des Orfevres (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00008RH15

    13. Red Circle (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000BUZKP

    14. Bob le Flambeur (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000633SC

    15. Le Samourai (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000AQKUG8

    16. 400 Blows (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000E5LEV0

    17. Breathless (R2, UK):
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000051YHO

    18. Antoine Doinel Series (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00008H2GR

    19. Louis Malle (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000E1YVZK

    20. This Man Escaped (R1):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001Y4LE6

    21. Balthazar (R1):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00068OSVI

    22. Mouchette (R2, UK):
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN

    23. Pickpocket (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BB14IA

    A great way to start appreciating Italian cinema is Scorcese's My Voyage to Italy (R1):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000092T5D

    Some examples of Italian cinema (Visconti, Rossellini, Fellini, De Sica, Antonioni, Ulmi).

    1. Death in Venice (R1):

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000WN118

    2. The Leopard (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00003CWQL

    3. Ossessione (R1):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000687DE

    4. Rocco and His Brothers (R2, UK):
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005UDXQ

    5. Conversation Piece (R2, UK):
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000094P4E

    6. Open City (R1):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/6305075573

    7. Mamma Roma (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001ZIVAA

    8. Journey to Italy (R2, UK):
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000DZRI4

    9. La Strada (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005JKGQ

    10. Nights of Cabiria (Criterion);
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00000IOKV

    11. 8 1/2 (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005QAPH

    12. La Dolce Vita (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005JKGO

    13. I Vitteloni (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002DB4YQ

    14. Casanova (R2, UK):
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00073I8MC

    15. Bycicle Thieves (R2, UK):
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000CZ0O4U

    16. Umberto D (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00009ME9Z

    17. Children Are Watching (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BR6QCS

    18. L'Avventura (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005BHW6

    19. L'Eclisse (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007989Y8

    20. La Notte (R1):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005AA9S

    21. The Blow-Up (R2, UK):
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0001CVB64

    22. The Passenger (R1):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000E33W0I

    23. Divorce, Italian Style (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007M222A

    24. Big Deal On Madonna Street (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005BCJZ

    Some examples of great Japanese cinema (Ozu, Kurosawa, Ugetsu):

    1. Tokyo Story (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005JLV7

    2. Late Spring (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EOTWIS

    3. Story of Floating Weeds (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001GH5RY

    4. Seven Samourai (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0780020685

    5. Rashomon (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00003CXC6

    6. Ugetsu (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BB14I0

    8. Kwaidan (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00004W3HF

    I would also like to reccomend some Fritz Lang timeless classics:

    1. M (R2, UK):
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000A33PX

    2. Dr. Mabuse (R2, UK):
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0001XQDVQ

    3. Testament of Dr. Mabuse (Criterion):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001UZZS6

    4. Metropolis (R2, UK):
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00007JGIW

    5. Spies (R1):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00064AEWY

    6. Scarlet Street (R1, remastered, amazing quality):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BGH2NG

    No DVD library is complete without F. W. Murnau's movies:

    1. Sunrise (R2, UK):
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005V58L

    or as part of this 4-DVD set (R1):
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000AINLS

    2. The Last Laugh (R2, UK):
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000189KN4
     
  3. MarcoBiscotti

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    But many of those are available in R1 in equal quality and features... why would you opt for a R2 Blow-Up for instance?
     
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    Kinowelt is an excellent German label to look out for. A couple of examples; She Wore a Yellow Ribbon has a fabulous one hour BBC interview with John Ford, worth the price of the disk alone - the transfer of the film is on a par with the R1. Sam Peckinpah's Convoy, uncut and in anamorphic OAR, and Three Days of The Condor has a better transfer than the R1, plus a Sydney Pollack commentary track. If you're into Hitchcock - Alfred Hitchcock - The Early Years.
     
  5. Irina

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    I based my choices of R2 vs R1 on the reviews and reccomendations from dvdbeaver.com. I believe that UK edition of Antonioni's The Blow Up was reccomended over the R1 edition.

    This is also true for some Fritz Lang's titles.

    I agree with John that German's Hitchcock - The Early Years is a superb set. It was also highly recommended by dvdbeaver.com.
     
  6. Manus

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    Many thanks for all your input . I can see much homework needs to be done by me [​IMG] This will be a mid-to-long term project so I'm very grateful for all your suggestions.

    Irina, I too check in with dvdbeaver for suggestions as to regional purchases so I hope their review database is up to date !

    ~M~
     
  7. Irina

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    Hi Manus! Good luck with building your DVD collection! I am sure it will be a time consuming but, ultimately, a very rewarding experience. I trust dvdbeaver.com. As far as I can tell, its information is very accurate and thourough.
     
  8. Dave B Ferris

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    That's a great tip on 'Follow Me Quietly'. I had always thought 'The Narrow
    Margin' was Fleischer's debut. I think I'll probably order 'Follow Me
    Quietly' -- thanks again for the heads-up.
     
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    'Follow Me Quietly' is a neat film noir with several interesting twists and the quality is great. I love Film Montparnasse slim cases, too.
     
  10. Manus

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    Irina, I feel guilty for asking but any idea how I could find all of this without another mortgage on my home [​IMG] ? Patience is the key I presume.

    I recently got the excellent Criterion set of 'The Killers' which I found entertaining and would recommend too.

    ~M~
     
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    I guess the sense of humor is the key. You definitely have the right attitude. Patience is a must. Remember that Rome was not built in one day. I agree that The Killers is a great set, a definite 'must have'.
     
  12. MarcoBiscotti

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    Hmm... The R2 Blow-Up just looks like a brighter transfer to me.

    I much prefer the look of the R1 release going by DVDBeaver's screen caps. It actually seems like the truer color timing. Just look at the fourth screen shot with the car. Look at how the sky is completely blown out compared to the above screen where the clouds are detailed and textured. The red bricks of the buildings look a million times better and if you look carefully at the detail in the writing, etc. you'll see signs of edge enhancement. I don't see how anyone determined the R2 release could be superior. Again, look at the checkered design on Thomas' shirt in the telephone booth. The backwall in the darkroom in the next shot. The R1 transfer is obviously the better choice here. It shows much more detailer and truer colors whereas the R2 is clearly edge enhanced (e4specially noticeable in the darkroom shot) and the colors have been tweaked unnaturally. As much as I value and appreciate DVDBeaver as a resource when it comes to certain releases where multiple versions of a title have been reissued and seen varying transfers, etc. when it comes to screen grabs, I'm always weary. I remember a big debate over the color timing in the recent Wizard Of Oz DVD in the Film forum months ago because of some screen caps that were posted that didn't represent or reflect the image well. Anyways, I certainly wouldnt go out of my way to pick up the R2 versions unless I lived in the UK and it was significantly cheaper or easily accessible. I think the R1 is the clear choice here, if only going by those screen shots.
     
  13. Dave B Ferris

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    Irina, is 'Follow Me Quietly' no longer available from Amazon's French store?

    If so, would you have any idea whether version still available at the
    Spanish site DVDGO.COM is of comparable quality?

    Thank you.
     
  14. Irina

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    Dave,
    It's still available:
    http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000EGCT7M

    From my observation and comparisons I have read, Spanish editions are usually inferior to their US, French or UK counterparts. I usually go for Spanish editions if I am not aware of any other editions (B. Wilder's Fedora, F. Lang's Human Desire, The Mad Miss Manton w/ Stanwyck).
     
  15. Dave B Ferris

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    Irina, thanks for the link. I've ordered 'Follow Me Quietly'. I'm looking
    forward to seeing Fleischer's early work.

    Thanks also for the comments on the Spanish releases. Have you by
    any chance seen the Spanish version of the Gregory Peck vehicle,
    'The Million Pound Note'? Ronald Neame directed; I believe Peck
    once said this was one of his favorite roles.
     
  16. Irina

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    Dave,
    I hope you enjoy the movie. The Clay Pigeon, another Fleicher's title, has just been released in Spain and available on dvdgo.com.
    I have not seen One Million Pound Note. Sounds very interesting. I will definitely check it out. Thanks! It is also available on this New Zealand site: marbecks.co.nz.
     

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