In case you missed it--Last Seduction 11/19/02

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  1. EugeneR

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    I know I missed it, and this is one of the movies I've been really, really waiting for on DVD. Didn't find out about it until today, which is kinda nice-- less than a week to wait![​IMG]
     
  2. Michael Reuben

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    Before you get too excited, note that this is an Artisan disc selling for around $10. Based on Artisan's track record, this is likely a recycle of the transfer done for LD in the 90s, which was very poor -- and wasn't widescreen. According to DVD Empire's listing, this will be a 1:33:1 disc with stereo surround. I have yet to see a review, so maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised. But I'm not holding my breath.

    M.
     
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    Thanks for raining on my parade, Michael.[​IMG]
    Seriously, thank you for the tip. I hope against hope that you are wrong, but I'm guessing you are not.[​IMG] I might actually be tempted even with the P&S version I love this movie so much.
     
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  5. EugeneR

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    If you look at the big picture of the back of the case at DVD Empire, it says a couple of contradictory things--the always popular "formatted to fit your screen." Well, not MY 16x9 screen!![​IMG]
    Then it says "presented in the original 1.33:1 format." Seeing as this movie was originally made for cable, I think that it just might be that 1.33:1 is OAR? It also says "digitally mastered." If the print sucks, the print sucks--I think I will still get this for ten bucks and it will tide me over until (hopefully) a new version comes along.
     
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    I do think I'll wait on this one after all. When DVDEmpire first had it up for pre-order, the did list it as 1.33/1 but then, they list that for alot of films that are widescreen. But, it is still listed as 1.33/1 and that is not the OAR. Once it's released, then we'll know for sure.

    Bruce
     
  7. Mark Walker

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    While not great, just keep in mind that this film was
    shot soft-matted, and that to achieve the OAR, one only
    need put some soft black mattes on their 4x3 television
    or zoom the picture on the 16x9 television.

    Yes, I can hear you now: But we've lost 33% of the DVD's
    potential image resolution.

    I know...I know.

    I want it presented on the DVD OAR, too, without needing
    to place my rarely used mattes on the television.

    I just think in this case, in the old debate, we need
    to distinguish between open-matte presentations, and
    true pan-and-scan, which is the most vile of MAR
    presentations, and always should be deemed unpurchaseable.

    And this brilliant, low budget film doesn't have the issue
    of SFX shots being pan-and-scan, while the rest is open-matte. It is all open-matte.

    Regretfully,

    Mark
     
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    If you have multi-region and PAL display capability it is available very cheap in a bare-bones anamorphic widescreen release in the UK.

    I got mine for £9.99 at HMV in Glasgow.
     
  9. Michael Reuben

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    I bought the disk.

    The picture quality is good!

    It is 1.33:1, which is not a surprise, but I watched it zoomed to fit my 16:9 screen, and it looks great.

    Good movie.

    There are literally no extras.
     
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    I have the Australian (R0, I'm pretty sure) DVD and aside from being amazingly inexpensive it does sport an OAR anamorphic transfer, so anyone who has PAL capability should buy that one.

    On the MAR debate, really, MAR is MAR. All sorts of stuff claimed to be "open matte" is, as Michael pointed out, also zoomed and cropped on the sides and unless you happen to have both versions to do an A/B comparison, there is no way of telling. And of course, by definition it it isn't anamorphic.

    No OAR, NO SALE! Period -- I'm really not interested in explanations and excuses.

    Ted
     
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    Nothing is cut off in "The Last Seduction." Trust me on this one, will you? I just watched it.
     
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    Just read the review at DVD Empire. The conclusion:
     
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    Thanks to all of you who recommended the PAL version. After doing some shopping around, I picked this up for $13.98 with free shipping (almost the same as the R1 version sells for!). The anamorphic widescreen transfer looks very nice, not to mention what a terrific film this is (I can't believe I had never managed to see this one).

    One thing I did notice while watching this is that the 1.85 framing works very, very nicely. It clearly looks composed for 1.85 to my eye. I highly recommend this disc (only the UK or Aussie version though).

    Jeff
     
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    sound is VERY low.
    My VHS copy is better.
     

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