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If the rumors are true, iPhone 5 looks like a DUD!

Discussion in 'Apple' started by Ronald Epstein, Mar 27, 2012.

  1. TonyD

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    How did this become a quarrel about the Samsung s2?
     
  2. Sam Posten

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    Well, we differ on how great the S2 was/is and that's where the dopey commercials started. From there it devolved into whether or not LTE is fully baked.
     
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    You guys should just arm wrestle to decide the winner.
     
  4. Sam Posten

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    Well Ron still hasn't answered the question Steve! =)
     
  5. Ronald Epstein

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    What question was I supposed to
    answer? I am at work and trying to
    juggle a few things on this end so
    I have been half paying attention.
     
  6. Sam Posten

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    "Hoping history does not repeat itself...."
    The question was which history? The bad samsung ads? The iPhone that was so unsuccessful that it sold more than all of its competitors combined, save Samsung? The industrial design that was so uninspiringly evolutionary that it's catapulted Apple's iPhone division alone to be worth more than all of Microsoft? The choice to eschew technologies that were not fully baked instead of waiting for them to be awesome and not an anchor?
     
  7. Ronald Epstein

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    Well, Sam, as usual, you mix truth with fiction.

    The Samsung ads were not bad. In hindsight, very truthful.
    Apple makes a great phone that sells millions based on their
    name, but their progress with each release have been incremental
    at best.

    Even what is to be announced today, if based on what has
    been already revealed, has raised a rash of disappointment.

    Of course iPhone 5 will sell millions, but there is no doubt that
    Samsung has made a dent in the market with their sales of the
    GS3, and that in great part has to do with people's waning interest
    in what incremental improvements have been done with Apple's brand.

    I kid you not -- 3 co-workers and 1 friend (Steven Simon who you
    know from this board) all switched to Galaxy S3's this past week
    because they were bored with the iPhone and saw more boredom
    ahead with the leaked specs. If nothing revolutionary is announced
    today, none of us are looking backwards.

    Of course, you'll keep clawing your way out of a box trying to
    convince people otherwise. That's fine. I am certain people are
    getting tired of seeing us debate the issue.
     
  8. Sam Posten

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    The plural of 'anecdote' is not data. =)
     
  9. Sam Posten

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  10. Ronald Epstein

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    Sam,

    Of course, as usual, your crawling your way out of a box trying
    to attack the opinions of others that disagree with you.

    I have already explained the reference of this thread title.

    ...but you'll still mock it despite that the opinion of the thread
    title remains mine....and still truthful for me today as it was
    the day I wrote it.

    ...and it's not just my opinion the iPhone 5 is a dud. Obviously,
    members on this board have recently migrated over to android,
    and the Samsung Galaxy 3 has risen to be quite a contender
    for the iPhone.

    All of that has been discussed before ad nauseam but you
    continue to go down this road. Of course the iPhone 5 is going
    to outsell every other phone. It will continue to do that. Do you
    think you are surprising anyone with that report you linked to?
    But it doesn't mean iPhone 5 is right for everyone, and that's
    quite apparent when considering how much success Samsung
    continues to have with their android phones.

    Can you just simply move on or is it going to be your mission
    to try and mock the opinions of others? It's really getting old
    and tiring.
     
  11. Sam Posten

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    I'm not the one who started a pejorative thread in the Apple forum =p
    Clearly the phone is not a dud. It may be less on the cusp of every new technical innovation out there but that has been the story of every successful Apple product. Disrupt the status quo by rethinking basics and removing rather than adding features, carefully refine over time. And when those carefully considered new features are added they aren't going to cover every expert's use case but they will be remarkably easier to use for the average user.
    If you want to dance on the blade of new innovation Apple is not and never will be the vendor for you. If you want stuff that just works for normal routine use, it is.
     
  12. Ronald Epstein

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    Sam,

    Move on. You come across as a lunatic continually
    trying to prove your point.

    The title of this thread represents MY opinion.

    It's like you trying to talk me or anyone else into
    converting from one political party to the other.
    No matter what you say, it ain't going to happen.

    I am not sitting here slamming Apple for being
    a company that's not innovative. Shit, I am one
    of the biggest supporters of Apple there is.

    But the iPhone 5 is not everyone's cup of tea.
    Go over to the Android forums and read countless
    posts from those users as to why they don't like the
    iPhone 5. Then go read the Apple forums and see
    why they do. There's a choice here and there are
    clear reasons why I made a different choice than
    you did.

    I have seen you start some incredibly condescending
    forum posts here, and watched you crap all over new
    products in press releases that I have posted -- and I
    don't sit here and call you out on all of them because
    my opinion doesn't jive with yours -- though I admit I
    just do a lot of head shaking and move on.

    Stop taking personal offense to everything.

    Get over it. Move on....Move on....Move on....
     
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    This whole thread is ridiculous now. Clearly the iPhone5 is not a dud. Clearly the other phones are also great products. These post are pointless. If I don't like the color purple, an argument can not be presented to me that will make me like it.
     
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    My wife loves purple.
    I will enjoy the iPhone5 more then I enjoy my 4S, I'm sure of it.
    I wish the iPhone5 were more, but it's company provided so *shrug*

    I will upgrade my personal phone and it will not be to the 5.

    To each their own.
     
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    If tempers keep flying suspensions will follow...
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  16. Sam Posten

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    I believe you are joking but I'll note: no temper here.
    Text is a tough medium to convey emotions in and my humor is both sarcastic and often subtle. I can count the times I've posted in anger here in 15 years on half of 1 hand.
    It's Ron's playpen tho and if he asks me to tone it down I do so even if I disagree with his opinion, and his facts. =) I'll be over in the owners thread for here on out, you guys can keep bashing it in this one.
     
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    Note: I have obtained Sam's latest hand x-ray from his doctor. That's how come he can count on half of one hand. :D
     
  18. Sam Posten

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    I only have five fingers but I save the middle one for special occasions Carlo =p
     
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    Well I upgraded to the iPhone 5 from the iPhone 4s (now my son's phone).

    LTE is insane, AT&T rolled it out on launch day in Seattle... I get 35-52Mbps download, 11-20Mbps Upload. However, even though I have unlimited you got to watch it. My friend hit 5GB yesterday his speeds are now .48Mbps ouch...

    I like the new screen size and it is much lighter, very noticeable. Battery life appears to still suck if your using network intense apps. :(

    Overall very happy with it.
     
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    Try this on any iOS device!
    https://twitter.com/munishp/statuses/260057553310973952
     

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