I want a SUB, but no shaking floor – any suggestions?

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  1. LouisPhilippeR

    LouisPhilippeR Auditioning

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    Hello,

    Here’s the situation... I’m dying to have a SUB, but I don’t want a ground shaker. I live on the third floor of an old building and I have wood floors. A boomy sub would be really disturbing for my neighbors and/or sleeping girlfriend.

    Here’s my current setup

    FRONT: Paradigm Monitor 5 v2

    CENTER: Paradigm CC-370

    REAR: Paradigm Mini Monitors

    AMP: Kenwood vr509

    I’m looking at the PDR-10 from (you guest it – Paradigm) because it’s not too “fat” and will give me some clean bass for my music and movies.

    My question is simple:

    Is there any trick (i.e. stands, carpets, etc…) to kill the vibrations of the floor for a floor standing sub?

    Thanks in advance for your suggestion and comprehension.

    Louis-Philippe.
     
  2. Rich Kraus

    Rich Kraus Stunt Coordinator

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    i dont think theres any way arround it.

    deep satisfing bass sort of goes with shaking things.

    any sort of bass improvement will produce some short of shake. even if you hung the thing from the celing the room would still resonate from the sound so attempts to isolate the thing from the floor are probably a waste.

    so just get the baddest sub possible and play the system loud only when little lady and neighbors are gone.
     
  3. Henry W

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    A Titan II LE from ACI will fit the bill. You can find it at www.audioc.com
    Best regards-Henry
     
  4. ColinM

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    Bolt-on transducers. Heard of them?
    Tactile sensation where it counts.
    No noise.
    Fun with headphones, and the wifey might like it too!
    [​IMG]
     
  5. Len Cheong

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    What about bubble wrap or some type of spongy material under it?
     
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    You could try something soft between the floor and the sub(if the floor isn't carpeted). Also try putting the sub as close to the key seat as possible...and experiment with the dynamic range compressor on your receiver too.

    TV
     
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    Perhaps a front-firing sub would help. At least then you're not firing the driver right down into your neighbor's living room!
     
  8. LouisPhilippeR

    LouisPhilippeR Auditioning

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    Thanks for the suggestions; I'll take all those in consideration. Either I shop for a “quiet” sub, that would fill my current needs for the next 2-3 years or buy a “fat” one and use it at low-level until I buy a house.

    Decisions, decisions…

    Thanks again.
     
  9. Raine Linton

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    Buy the "fat sub" and play it a low levels. When you get your home you won't need to buy another sub. As someone stated to me there is no "sub"stitute for quality.
     
  10. NicholasF

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    I think it doesn't hurt to try isolation techniques. If by experimenting, even if you only reduce the vibration transmission to your neighbors by 3db, isn't that significant?

    I would get a sub with a heavy ( > 80lbs ), solid enclosure, and couple it to the floor with three sharp spikes. With wood floors, you would also want a foam backed metal plate / discs to prevent the spikes from damaging the floor. True the floor will still resonate especially from standing waves, but at least it won't be shaking from direct contact with a large vibrating surface.

    I don't understand all the theory, but was told it is very important to isolate with 3 points instead of 4 or more.

    I guess this is another vote for the "fat" sub!
     
  11. Jeff Aguilar

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    If you want to feel your sub without disturbing others why don't you try bass shakers? They mount to your couch and no one else will know about them unless they are on the couch.

    Jeff
     
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    Go with something small (10" or less) and play it at the same level as your mains, which means not running the sub +5 or +6dBs "hot" like most of the rest of us like. [​IMG] Then get yourself a couple Bass Shakers and a small 25W amp. You'll feel and hear most of the benefits of deep bass, but without being too obtrusive.
     

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