I ran out of oil, anything special I need to know?

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  1. Jeff Kleist

    Jeff Kleist Executive Producer

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    I'm clueless when it comes to cars, I should have realized when my car was running hot yesterday I was low, but I didn't, and now it won't start, got out, checked it, and whoo-daddy no oil

    Anything I need to know about putting more in to avoid hurting the car as much as possible? (Besides be more vigilant in the future)
     
  2. Jeremy Brown

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    Get a new car [​IMG] Running a car without oil is not good. You will probably manage to get it going again, but the pistons are probably a bit warped now, and you will probably experience severe engine problems in the near future, depending on how long you ran it without oil.
    If you do put more oil in and it still won't start, you are pretty much screwed. Sorry to sound so pessimistic, you may be able to get many more years out of the engine, but I have heard lots of not good things about cars running out of oil.
    Good luck,
    Jeremy
     
  3. Jeff Kleist

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    The car was not run w/o oil

    I only tried to start it, got the light. It had oil yesterday.
     
  4. Paul O

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    Any idea where it all went? If it won't start it sounds like you may have some serious engine damage...
     
  5. Philip_G

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    Where'd it go? [​IMG]
    how much did it have yesterday? if it's low enough to cause the engine to run hot, I'd suspect the damage is done already.
     
  6. Eric Kahn

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    if it got hot because of no oil and would not turn over the next morning, the engine is pretty much toasted, you will need to get it rebuilt of put a new longblock in
    might be cheaper to buy another car if this one is an older car
     
  7. Jeff Kleist

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    It turns over, it just seizes

    It only ran hot when I was idling for about 10min in heavy traffic, otherwise it wasn't in the danger zone

    I do have some nice size splotches under the car, could the plug have come loose?
     
  8. Philip_G

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    What kind of car is it? 3 quarts of oil will cause more than a couple splotches. I guess it could leak from the plug, or the filter, or it's possible you hit something (like a concrete parking stop thing) and punctured the pan, that would take a serious hit to do that though
     
  9. Jeff Kleist

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    It's an 89 Ford Escort hatchback with 26000 on it. I started it 3 times and it seized, then I didn't try it again. It was driven a total of 3 feet w/o oil.

    (Yes, it really was driven by my grandmother to the store etc0

    The plug did come out, maybe my friend knocked it when he was working on my car a few weeks back, I dunno......

    It's going in for inspection next week anyway, so I'll make sure to have him check it out. If I just dump oil in the proper place, will it automatcially start sucking it in and be OK, what do I need to make sure it travels thru the system?
     
  10. CharlesD

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    If the car was driven at all w/o oil it's probably toast. Unless there is an engine's worth of oil underneath the car right now it doesn't look good.
     
  11. Keith Mickunas

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    If you were in heavy traffic your temp will often go up, that's normal. If its slow going and you are packed in amongst a bunch of cars, you're not getting enough airflow to keep the coolant cooling.

    As for the oil, this sounds a bit odd. If the plug was out, then you'd lose all your oil pretty damn quickly. If you just lost your oil, it might be alright, although the seizing sounds odd. Just add the oil and see what happens. Change the filter too, and put a bit of oil in the filter before you put it on, about a quarter of a quart, that will reintroduce oil to the system faster when you restart. However if its seizing right away, then its not going to start circulating the oil right away, so you're possibly out of luck.
     
  12. Jeff Kleist

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    Fingers crossed. It's a great little car. I think that the oil just got drailed, so I will hope that everything goes OK tomorrow. Wish me luck [​IMG]
     
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    Dare I ask what your friend was doing near the oil drain plug? About the only thing to go anywhere around there is to change the oil... Any chance he just didn't tighten it?
     
  14. Joe Tilley

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    Jeff,if you drove it or ran it without oil for any short amount of time the first thing to go would be the bearings.
    Have you ever heard the term spun a bearing? Normally if you have no oil pressure or just no oil this is one of the first things to happen. What it means is the bearings can actually get stuck to the crank or cam and spin with it (not a good thing). In a engine the bearings are not like what you may think of as normal bearings,they are actually smooth and flat there is no balls or roller needles in them,and they rely on that film of oil between them and the crank to keep everything moving freely.
    Just make sure you have the right amount of oil in the car,put on a new filter but fill the filter as full as you can before you try to start it, & give it a go. You may have gotten lucky & not done much damage, but I wouldn't get your hopes up to much,I've seen motors get trashed after just a few seconds without oil.

    Good luck,Hope it makes it out alright
     
  15. Paul D Young

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    Sorry to post off topic but I thought you might find this slightly humorous.

    The other day as I was leaving the forest preserve I walked past those short yellow posts that prevent you from entering and exiting the grassy area without an authorized vehicle. (They fold them down so a truck can pass over them no problem.) The middle post was folded down but it still sticks up about 8 - 10 inches. Anyway, there was a big puddle of oil on it and an oil stain that got progressively smaller right down the middle of the street for two blocks! It looked like some poor sucker ripped off something trying to drive where he wasn't supposed to. He lost all his oil in two blocks. I followed the trail to see if I'd find a car but nobody was around. The trail of oil just tapered off. I wonder how far he got?
     
  16. Ken Garrison

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    Well, when the pressure sensor brokes off on my Toyota Van, it started misfiring like hell and didn't have ANY power. It let me go 25 MPH MAX to a place to park it until the place who rebuilt the engine can come get it and fix it. Luckily, the engine wasn't fried.
     
  17. Jack Briggs

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    Sorry to say, Jeff, but it doesn't look good. If the engine ran for any time at all without oil, the damage potential is very great--and, as you can tell here, probably fatal.
     
  18. Carlos_E

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    Jeff, when you try to start it what kind of sound does it make? Does it continually crank without catching (like what happens when you try to start a car that has a fuel problem such as out of gas or bad fuel pump) or does it only crank one time and stop like if it is stuck?

    Carlos
     
  19. Jeff Kleist

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    Hee hee
    I'm an idiot
    I was out of gas, and was a dipstick for not making sure the dipstick was all the way down. The difference between 1/4 tank and "E" on my car is about 8 miles, so I thought I was OK.
    I have only myself to thank for my sleepless night [​IMG]
    Thanks all for the help
     
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