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Gary Tooze

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Yes Randy, I agree...


and I agree with this too Greg... Criterion is still the champ (but its is a personal preference)...

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Okay, I checked...Ron Miller's dialogue is the same in both versions.

But I still think the Criterion sound mix in Murphy's death scene is better than the MGM (which takes the same few screams and reuses them in spots. In the Criterion version, it sounds much more agonizing.).


I also think the Trilogy set is a good deal. I'd never seen the sequels uncut (only on tv), and they're nice to have, if only for historical purposes (as in "how *not* to do a RoboCop film").
 

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Okay, I checked...Ron Miller's dialogue is the same in both versions.

But I still think the Criterion sound mix in Murphy's death scene is better than the MGM (which takes the same few screams and reuses them in spots. In the Criterion version, it sounds much more agonizing.).


I also think the Trilogy set is a good deal. I'd never seen the sequels uncut (only on tv), and they're nice to have, if only for historical purposes (as in "how *not* to do a RoboCop film").
 

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We have managed to take an indepth look at the two main releases of MGM's Robocop Trilogy (US & UK), comparing them alongside eachoter; as well as comparing them both against the OOP Robocop Criterion release. Click here for the full review.

 

Jesse Blacklow

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Wierd comment coming from someone in R2. Are you being sarcastic? PAL speedup doesn't apply to my setup anyway (HTPC), so I could care less about the inclusion of it in a review.
 

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Indeed. I'm the one who wrote the review that Chris linked to, and write most of the DVD Debate comparison reviews.

I don't think I have ever mentioned PAL speedup, simply because I don't recall any noticeable difference. The only thing it really affects is audio, and I find most studios these days seem to pitch the audio back down slightly to comensate for the speed up.

So in answer to Rodney's question, I didn't forget, it simply wasn't worth noting in this case.
 

Gary Tooze

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Of course it DOES. You may not be sensitive to it, but playing through HTPC does not eliminate PAL speedup. I suggest you read this HERE

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Good post Gary, listening to side by side samples shows everyone just what pal speedup does. Though they didn't do the resampling that they do on modern pal releases with that one, so it shows up even more. Nevermind HD-DVD will hopefully give everyone the correct running time, and the PAL speedup issue with no longer be of concern. Of course NTSC 3:2 pulldown (process of inserting extra frames into film's 24fps to make it NTSC's 30fps) has it's disadvantages, it can display a jerkyness during fast panning shots, but I think PAL speedup is worse.
 

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Good post Gary, listening to side by side samples shows everyone just what pal speedup does. Though they didn't do the resampling that they do on modern pal releases with that one, so it shows up even more. Nevermind HD-DVD will hopefully give everyone the correct running time, and the PAL speedup issue with no longer be of concern. Of course NTSC 3:2 pulldown (process of inserting extra frames into film's 24fps to make it NTSC's 30fps) has it's disadvantages, it can display a jerkyness during fast panning shots, but I think PAL speedup is worse.
 

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Gary, I've got a freeware program called Reclock that automatically adjusts for framerate changes. To quote the webpage:
I can guarantee you that all of my PAL films play fine and in their total time. No nasal voices, no off-pitch music, all perfectly pristine.
 

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Gary, I've got a freeware program called Reclock that automatically adjusts for framerate changes. To quote the webpage:
I can guarantee you that all of my PAL films play fine and in their total time. No nasal voices, no off-pitch music, all perfectly pristine.
 

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can anyone comment on what exactly is the unrated portion of the DVD?
is it just a gimmick or is it worth getting?
 

ethan_l

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can anyone comment on what exactly is the unrated portion of the DVD?
is it just a gimmick or is it worth getting?
 

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It's mostly, if not just a few extra shots during some of the violent scenes. For example, it the beginning when the executive is killed during the ED-209 test, there is an extra shot of the guy being riddled by bullets. There are a couple of quick, extra shots in the scene with Murphy's death as well. Some believe the extra violence changes the tone of the film in a significant way so from that point of view, it does not seem like just a gimmick and also of note, it is the same cut that was found on the Criterion version of the film.
 

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It's mostly, if not just a few extra shots during some of the violent scenes. For example, it the beginning when the executive is killed during the ED-209 test, there is an extra shot of the guy being riddled by bullets. There are a couple of quick, extra shots in the scene with Murphy's death as well. Some believe the extra violence changes the tone of the film in a significant way so from that point of view, it does not seem like just a gimmick and also of note, it is the same cut that was found on the Criterion version of the film.
 

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