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Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by Kelly Scott Rickards, Dec 17, 2001.
Which one is the better value?
Can you still find the HSU at av123.com for 399?
Oh, boy... here we go.....
They are both tremendous subs for the money. I'm not sure if there's objective data that shows if one outputs more than the other. I'm sure someone will come along and let us know if there is.
My friend just got the VTF-2 and he couldn't be happier. He loves bass and lots of it, and he's not left for wanting at all!
Sorry, that's not really an answer, but I have a feeling this thread is about to explode
My guess is the Dharman would edge out the HSU in performance, but it also edges it out in price. Both are a great value.
Here's information from the thread about the Dharman:
Nousaine numbers (as posted by Tom V)
SVS Dual 20-39cs+600w amp 115.5 /20hz~97 / 25hz ~111.8 /
HSU RESEARCH VTF-2 - 107.1 / 20hz~93 / 25hz~99dB
Nousaine numbers for Dharman
Average SPL 25-62 Hz: 107.9 dB
Average SPL 20-62 Hz: 105.9 dB
Bass Extension: 20 Hz @ 96 dB SPL
Maximum Output: 114.6 dB SPL @ 32 Hz
Here's the 10% THD limit SPLs Tom measured in his large 7500 cubic foot room:
20 Hz: 96 dB SPL
25 Hz: 102 dB SPL
32 Hz: 114.6 dB SPL (system at maximum)
40 Hz: 111.8 dB SPL (system at maximum)
50 Hz: 108.1 dB SPL
62 Hz: 103.1 dB SPL
So, they're about the same over the whole bass range, but the Dharman has about a 3dB advantage at 25Hz and at 20Hz. Whether or not that is worth the extra $$$ is up to you!
I own the HSU and couldn't be more pleased. I am amazed everytime I fire it up. Unfortunately I haven't heard the Dharman but it looks to be a very solid choice as well.
For the money I don't see how you can go wrong with either one.
I would say that since they are both about even in performance, it may come down to their implementations.
The Hsu is a down firing sub with ports on the sides. I believe the Dharman is a front firing sealed enclosure.
If you had to put the Hsu with the port facing the wall (right up to it) it will affect its performance. So the Dharman might be the better choice. Or maybe you can only put it somewhere in a configuration where the Dharman is going to have the driver right up against a wall. In that case a down firing sub might be better.
I like sealed enclosures, the bass just sounds more to my liking. But then again, I have probably only had average ported subs, and my current sealed sub is much better.
The HSU is $499 at AV123.COM unless you purchase the Diva speakers, then you get the $100 discount.
The Dharman is also on sale through December 24th for $549.
The Hsu VTF-2 is down-firing, with ports on opposite sides. The only blank side is the one opposite the plate amp.
The Dharman is front-firing, with 2 ports next to the driver.
I don't think placement should be a concern with either of these, unless the Dharman is just too big.
You can get teh HSU here and get free shipping for $449. http://www.nax.com/products.asp?category_group_id=12. Man I wish I had the money. Would this thing be a lot better than my Energy Exl:S10?
Somebody on Audiogon is actually selling new VTF-2s for $425 including shipping. Sounds like a good deal.