How pro-DTS are you?

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  1. Patrick McCart

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    Sure, titles like Amadeus, Superman, Titanic, and The Abyss would greatly benifit from DTS, but would you pass on a movie such as Citizen Kane because it has no DTS track?
     
  2. Rich Romero

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    I'm very high on DTS, but I don't absolutely have to have it.
     
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    I was once completely indifferent to DTS, but the irrational love that has developed for it has turned me somewhat against it.
    This is a baffling question to me. I'd be more inclined to pass on a film such as Citizen Kane if it didn't included the original mono track. 5.1 remixes don't interest me in the slightest for films of this age. Reagrding mono mixes, I am completely confident when I say that a DTS 1.0 mono track (if such a thing exists) would offer no audible improvements over a Dolby Digital 1.0 track.
    As it stands I think there's about as much confusion and misunderstanding with respect to DTS vs. DD as there is with pan scan vs. widescreen.
     
  4. Rich Romero

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    I disagree completely. From my experience, DTS tracks are almost always clearer, more expanisive with better channel seperation and better bass response. That's just me.
     
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    Paul, I am not influenced by reviews or other people's opinion. When I first got my home theater, I really couldn't tell a difference between the two. So I really didn't care. After a year of having it you begin to completely hear the differences and can appreciate them. I came to the conclusion that DTS was better with my own ears. But anyway, I don't think this debate is ever gonna end. I hope it doesn't, it gives me something to post about. [​IMG]
     
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    I just think that its the way that the DTS track has been authored. Don't get me wrong...I like DTS - a lot.
    But I agree with Paul's assessment . Look at the best DTS films/DVD's. Where/Who are they from??
    Dreamworks & Spielberg.
    That is no coincidence...IMHO.
    Authoring is the key here. While I don't have the SWars Ep.1 Laserdisc to go by, I can tell you that the audio is some of the best in my collection,bar none.
    I also agree with the Citizen Kane issue. Not everything has to be remixed into 5.1. Especially the old classics.
    Lastly,while I might get flamed for this,well, I've been wanting to say this even since I thought about I stand with the whole DTS vs DD issue.
    I cannot simply understand who anyone would say no sale for a DVD simply because it doesn't have a DTS track.
    There, I said it.
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    Calvin
     
  8. george kaplan

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    I'm not pro-DTS at all. I've gone to two separate DTS demos where the same material was demoed in DD and DTS and neither my wife nor I could hear a difference.

    That's not to say that there aren't differences in some tracks out there, but as with others, I have to believe that it's due to differential mastering, not to any inherent improvement brought about by DTS.

    But to each their own. I do own DTS capable equipment so as long as a film has DD or DTS available, I'm happy.
     
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    It's damn important on the porn titles with dts! [​IMG]
     
  10. Mike boettner

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    I like DTS better, If I have a choice its always DTS but im happy with DD. Now if a movie is anything less than 5.1 I wont buy it. I got into DVD for the sound and not the picture, although the the picture is an added bonus!!
     
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    Technically, the numbers say that DTS should sound a little better than DD. That being said, I would prefer a DTS track, but I would certainly never pass on a title just because it doesnt have it!
     
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    I could honestly care less if a DVD has DTS or not. If I like the movie, I will purchase it and not even care about DTS being missing from the disc.
     
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    Personally, I prefer DTS. On a lot of DVDs that have both, I always listen to the DTS track. My main reason is that on the very first DTS DVDs (Waterworld, Apollo 13, The Shadow etc.) there was clearly an audible difference from their DD counterparts. At least to me. I'm not saying that DD is'nt good, take Episode 1 for example, but I tend to prefer DTS.
     
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    I always try to A/B the DTS vs. DD tracks on a DVD, because occasionally the Dolby sounds better to me. I say occasionally because 90% of the time the DTS wins hands down. Better LFE, sharper highs (to my ears). JH
     
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    Nope Kevin no joke! but I do need to clarify it. If it was stereo when it came out then why not re-mix it for 5.1? a good example is the special edition of "fast times at ridgemont high" I have it in stereo vhs. I will not buy the dvd because it is 2.0 mono. why would they do this? I have always been audio before video. sure the vhs look like crap but it doesn't sound too bad.
    Jan,
    as far as movies before 1950, there are not very many I like, and I don't care for black and white movies either.
    some movie lover I am, eh?
    Mike(hell bent on his ways)Boettner[​IMG]
     
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    Mike,
    No problem, at least you're honest[​IMG] JH
     
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    So what I'm getting out of this is, you didn't get into DVD for the love of film, but for how good it sounds? I love DTS, but I got some mono movies and I don't mind them at all. Most important thing on the disc is how good the movie is.
     
  20. Mike boettner

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    Rich,
    the biggest reason I upgraded from vhs is because of how bad tape sounds(I HATE hiss)just like I love ALL music but don't like records because I cant stand the background hiss and pops. I didn't buy full range(or close to it) surrounds so I could listen to a movie only through the center channel!

    As far as how good the movie is , I do own all my favorite movies on DVD and they all happen to be at least 5.1 DTS or DD. The oldest being from 1979, it has its original mono and re mixed to 5.1 DD.I'm just saying we have the technology, why not use it!
    Mike
     

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