ClaudeL
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- Oct 31, 2001
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Hi,
I finished my Tumult sub last week (but without the wood veener finish yet). If you remember, I wrote a post about the Tumult gasket, if alone it would be enough. So I tried the sub without any other gasket. The first time I played a song, I could hear really bad air leaks around the woofer but it was due to me, who didnt place the woofer well into the hole (I almost dropped it :b)!!! So I unscrewed the woofer, and I screwed it for a second time. And this I didnt touch it since then. Now, I can hear again one or two air leaks around the woofer, but it is not as worse as before. I just hear the air coming out of one or two screws when I play the subwoofer at a loud volume or when I fire very low test tone (16-25 Hz). It was during the low test tones that the air leaks were the most noticable due to the bass which is less audible.
From that point, in a 1500 cubic ft room, corner placed and this is by the way the best placement, I get only 110 dB at 20 Hz, no more. If I push the sub volume farther, it just makes bad noise, air leaks or distortion. I can get about 1 or 2 more dB when the sub is sit on the floor (it is placed presently on a piece of furniture but still in a corner). I expected more output than that. When you look into simulation softwares and that you compare a sealed (Q of 0,6) Tumult powered by a 2400W amp to a SBB4 Tempest powered by a 300W amp, you can clearly see that the Tumult is not SOO far behind the Tempest in output at 20 Hz. I could get about 115 dB with my Tempest at 20 Hz, so you see why Im disapointed.
Do I expect too much of my Tumult??? Does these air leaks around the screws can drop that much its performance? Its not like a LOT of air come out (around air leaks), you can feel it just a little with your fingers but again, the sub must be pushed quite loud (at about 1.5 to 1.75 inch of peak to peak excursion).
I plan to buy a neoprene gasket + the wood veneer soon. Im pretty sure than with the new gasket, the main air leaks around the woofer will be gone away. But do you think that with the wood veener, other kind of possible air leaks (behind the sub, sides, etc) can be gone away too? Afterall, the wood veneer will cover the entire surface... But I didnt detect air leaks anywhere else than around the woofer.
Quite a lot of question anywhere, I hope that you wont be lost in that post
Thanx for any inputs!
I finished my Tumult sub last week (but without the wood veener finish yet). If you remember, I wrote a post about the Tumult gasket, if alone it would be enough. So I tried the sub without any other gasket. The first time I played a song, I could hear really bad air leaks around the woofer but it was due to me, who didnt place the woofer well into the hole (I almost dropped it :b)!!! So I unscrewed the woofer, and I screwed it for a second time. And this I didnt touch it since then. Now, I can hear again one or two air leaks around the woofer, but it is not as worse as before. I just hear the air coming out of one or two screws when I play the subwoofer at a loud volume or when I fire very low test tone (16-25 Hz). It was during the low test tones that the air leaks were the most noticable due to the bass which is less audible.
From that point, in a 1500 cubic ft room, corner placed and this is by the way the best placement, I get only 110 dB at 20 Hz, no more. If I push the sub volume farther, it just makes bad noise, air leaks or distortion. I can get about 1 or 2 more dB when the sub is sit on the floor (it is placed presently on a piece of furniture but still in a corner). I expected more output than that. When you look into simulation softwares and that you compare a sealed (Q of 0,6) Tumult powered by a 2400W amp to a SBB4 Tempest powered by a 300W amp, you can clearly see that the Tumult is not SOO far behind the Tempest in output at 20 Hz. I could get about 115 dB with my Tempest at 20 Hz, so you see why Im disapointed.
Do I expect too much of my Tumult??? Does these air leaks around the screws can drop that much its performance? Its not like a LOT of air come out (around air leaks), you can feel it just a little with your fingers but again, the sub must be pushed quite loud (at about 1.5 to 1.75 inch of peak to peak excursion).
I plan to buy a neoprene gasket + the wood veneer soon. Im pretty sure than with the new gasket, the main air leaks around the woofer will be gone away. But do you think that with the wood veener, other kind of possible air leaks (behind the sub, sides, etc) can be gone away too? Afterall, the wood veneer will cover the entire surface... But I didnt detect air leaks anywhere else than around the woofer.
Quite a lot of question anywhere, I hope that you wont be lost in that post
Thanx for any inputs!