How low do DVD movie soundtracks go???

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  1. GrahamJW

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    Hi:

    I was wondering how low movie sound tracks go on DVDs? I have a Paradigm PDR 10 which I believe goes down to 27 Hz. I was wondering if movie sound tracks on DVDs go below this frequency, and if so, how low do they go. I understand this is a budget subwoofer, so if movie tracks do go lower would I have to upgrade to an expensive subwoofer to get lower frequencies, if DVD movie sound tracks do indeed go significantly lower than 27Hz.

    Cheers

    John
     
  2. Robb Roy

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    John,

    More and more movies are going lower and louder (definitely below the 27Hz mark). Some action movies like the new Star Wars flicks and the LOTR movies dip into subsonic ranges. To view some waterfall charts of just how low and loud some materal goes, there's a thread on this forum and SVS Subwoofers has a List of bass demos that has links to waterfall charts as well.

    -Robb
     
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    Hi Robb:

    Interesting waterfall charts in some of those threads. I didn't realize that there are some single digit frequencies. For what it's worth, I use to be a movie projectionist in a mega plex theatre and from what I can gather from my conversations with the sound technicians the subs in the mega complexes only went into the 30 Hz to 40 Hz range. That was about 3 to 5 years ago, so I am not sure what the subs in the multiplexs can do now. Purhaps another reason that home theatre sound is superior over the mega plex stuff. Although, I still love going to the movies. Anyway, some interesting stuff Robb.

    Cheers..John
     
  4. Kevin C Brown

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    I can't explain this quite right, but I heard once that ~40 Hz is the "sweet" spot for what people *perceive* to be strong deep bass, so that makes sense that movie theaters would have tried to at least get to those values.
     
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    "Deep" bass is subjective.

    And the need for bass that can crack windows & cause physical discomfort is questionable.

    LJ
     
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    From a guy that has been only able to hear 40 cycles and up for the past few years,my new SVS has changed my LIFE! If you are after a HT sub it needs to be able to hit 20hz with decent output or you are wasting money IMHO[​IMG]
     
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    I agree with Jai. Except that I believe a sub should hit at least 25hz.
     
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    Indeed. My stepfather has a Infinity BU-150 which I recently got out the ol' Rat Shack meter and tested it. Its wimpy amp and 12 inch driver only managed 35 hz before it rolled off like a cliff. Well hell, my Rocket 750s will do that with no subwoofer help and the rollout is more gradual. The sub is not completely worthless since his mains only are good to 50 hz and the satellites aren't much good below 100 hz, but clearly for $400, he could have bought a better sub.
     
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    Okay i can't hold it in anymore! I have to tell you guys this so you will be in for a real treat![​IMG]

    I have a family member who works in the movie industry and sometimes i will get lucky if he thinks of me, he will send me earliy DVD relesases. DVD 9 with DD & dts tracks! He sent me Matrix Reloaded, Finding Nemo and X-2. I have had MR for two weeks now and all have to say is you are in for some serious BASS that pushes the envelope on DVD soundtracks! From the very first chapter to the ending credits, some might think the LFE is cooked on the MR, but Damn the bass is loud and clean and very, very, very DEEP (20hz-??hz) in a lot of sence.

    Finding Nemo has and excellent soundtrack as well Pixar does again. The chapter when the topedo hits the mine feild is crazy! The chapter when the sub slides off the cliff. This chapter will test your sub and house integrity, when Darla is tapping on the fish tank in the dentist office.

    X-2 has some subsonic bass but nothing like the MR & Finding Nemo. You guys will definatly be blowed away with these two. Now if i can get my hands on The Hulk![​IMG]
     
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    Terence, you are so lucky dude! Will MR finally have a dts track on it? Will X-2? I dont think PIxar ever had dts though...just DD-EX which is pretty good however. dts would be awesome for all those tracks.
     
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    I realize that WB does not support DTS, but if I am not mistaken. I have four WB dvd's that have DTS soundtracks on them. It is pathetic that Matrix Reloaded will not have a DTS sound track. I am however waiting for MR to comeout soon on dvd.

    DTS DVD's from WB
    Twister
    Lethal Weapon 1-3 Directors Cut

    The sad thing is that WB decided not to give LW 4 the DTS treatment or put out a directors cut even after doing it for LW 1 - 3.

    I am jazzed about the X2 coming out in DTS and will grab that one as soon as it is released.

    New DVD Releases that I am looking forward to,

    X- Men 2 DTS [​IMG]
    Indiana Jones Trilogy DD Only [​IMG] [​IMG]
    Lion King DD Only [​IMG]
    LOTR: The Two Towers EE DTS [​IMG]
    Matrix Reloaded DD Only [​IMG]
    Terminator 3 DD Only [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
    Tomb Raider 2 DD Only [​IMG]
    Pirates Of The Carabean DD Only [​IMG]

    Get a clue movie studios, you release motion pictures in more than one format for the theaters! Give us the choice on dvd.
     
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  17. Vaughan Odendaal

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    Hi terence,

    Is there any low bass in the MR fight scenes? I enjoyed the first Matrix for its low bass in those type of scenes.Punches and kickes always gave such a nice deep thump.

    Is it the same with MR? Is there bass deep in scenes like the burly brawl fight? Maybe you could expound on the deep bass.
     
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    I can't wait to hear the burly brawl at serious output levels.Just another two weeks until the dvd release.
     

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