How important is a hard drive?

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  1. RossHy

    RossHy Agent

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    As the title implies, when looking for a DVD recorder, how important is a hard drive? Can you editing such as taking out commercials without having a hard drive?

    I guess what I'm looking for is different things you can do with a hard drive that couldn't do otherwise. Thanks.
     
  2. alan halvorson

    alan halvorson Cinematographer

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    The only way to remove commercials when recording on a machine without a hard drive is use the pause button. This is a real pain. Unless your favorite thing to do is to babysit your machine while recording, don't consider any dvd recorder that lacks a hard drive.
     
  3. Brandon R

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    I HAVE A TOSHIBA RD-XS32 W/A HARD DRIVE AND AM HAVING TROUBLE WITH IT. I'VE MADE 3 DVD'S FROM A 6 PACK AND NOW IT WONT TAKE ANY OTHERS [​IMG]
     
  4. alan halvorson

    alan halvorson Cinematographer

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    Brandon: More information, please. What do you mean by NOW IT WONT TAKE ANY OTHERS? What does the machine do or say? I am not familar with this model, so hopefully someone can chime in.
     
  5. Brandon R

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    IT SAYSDISC MAY BE DAMAGED OR NEED TO BE CLEENED ON EYERY DISK EVEN THE NEXT PACK I BOUGHT
     
  6. SteveK

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    Brandon - I have the same model you do. I get that message occasionally. Whenever I do, I just remove the disk, blow on it to remove whatever dust there may be, then reinsert the disk. That always seems to work.

    However, perhaps the problem may be incompatible disks. What kind of DVD are you using, including the "x", 8x etc. I tried using a 4x DVD-RW but it would not work, but a 4x -R does work. I could be mistaken, but I believe 2x is the fastest DVD-RW you can use and 4x is the fastest -R. You also can't use +R. So please provide more information about the discs you are trying to use. I'll try to help if I can.

    Steve
     
  7. Brandon R

    Brandon R Auditioning

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    I HAVE 2 TYPES FUJIFILM DVD-R 4.7GB UPTO 4X WRITE &
    MAXELL DVD-R 1X 2X AND 4X WRITE SPEED COMPATIBLE 4.7GB
     
  8. SteveK

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    Brandon - It doesn't sound like a disc compatability problem...unfortunately, since that would obviously be the easiest problem to solve. Both disc brands you mentioned are obviously brand name discs, so that shouldn't be a problem. The few times I've had the problem you mentioned, I simply cleaned the disk (perhaps a bit of dust on it even though it's brand new), then tried again with no further problems. If that doesn't work, you might want to give Customer Service a call or send them an e-mail. I've found them to be very responsive.

    Good luck!

    Steve K.
     
  9. RossHy

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    OK, say my DVD recorder had a hard drive and I wanted to transfer an old VHS tape to DVD. Would I just transfer the tape to the hard drive, edit out what I don't want, and then burn it to the DVD?

    I guess what I'm trying to figure out is whether the hard drive is worth the extra $200 or so.
     
  10. Michael Reuben

    Michael Reuben Studio Mogul

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    That's the basic procedure.

    I regard a hard drive as essential, especially for recording from broadcasts. Why? Because DVD media can have defects. If you're recording to a blank disc that turns out to be defective, most machines will just quit, and you've lost the broadcast. If you've recorded to a hard drive and are burning to DVD, you just start over with a new blank.

    Another advantage with a hard drive: It's easy to make multiple copies.

    M.
     
  11. Thomas Newton

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    It's possible that DVD-RAM allows more flexible editing than DVD-R/RW and DVD+R/RW. So if you got a machine that took DVD-RAM as one of the formats, but that did not have a hard drive, you might be able to do some editing when using DVD-RAM discs.

    Note that DVD-RAM is not a widely-supported playback format, and would not be the best bet for distributing videos of your baby's first steps.
     
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    I think having a hard drive is better/edit for folks that edit a lot of commercials, etc. and it's great for those who also use the DVD recorder as a quasi-DVR as well.
     
  13. Paul Clarke

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    Ross,



    Get an HDD unit. I have 2 Tosh's...the D-KR2 RAM capable but no HDD...and the RD-SX32 which is RAM capable and also has the 80GB HDD. The ease of editing and the greater overall flexibility with the HDD is well worth the money in the long run.
     
  14. Jon Martin

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    I'd say a hard drive is VERY important.

    I've often found that I'll record something to the hard drive, only to watch it and realize it isn't worth saving and delete it without wasting a DVD.

    Plus, as mentioned, editing is A LOT easier. And you can make multiple copies.


    You can record directly to a DVD as well, not hassle with the hard drive if you don't want.

    Honestly, I didn't think a hard drive was important but ending up buying the Panasonic E-80 with one. Now, I don't know how I could have gotten along without it.
     
  15. RossHy

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    OK, here's a probably obvious question, but I'll ask anyway: Can you record to a DVD on multiple occassions? For example, can I record an episode of a show this week and then tape the next week's episode on the same DVD?
     
  16. Michael Reuben

    Michael Reuben Studio Mogul

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    It depends on the format. DVD-RW, DVD+RW and DVD-RAM are rewriteable formats. DVD-R and DVD+R are not.



    M.
     
  17. RossHy

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    So if I use a rewritable format, I can record multiple episodes of a weekly show? Not on top of each other, but back to back? Just wanted to clarify. Thanks everyone for your help.
     
  18. Michael Reuben

    Michael Reuben Studio Mogul

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    You can also do that with a non-rewriteable format. Let's take a specific example. You're recording on a DVD-R at what is generally referred to as "standard" speed, which gives you just over 2 hours on a disc.

    First session: You record a 1-hour program.

    Second session: You record a half-hour program.

    Third session: You record another half-hour program.

    This works as long as you don't "finalize" the disc until after the third session.

    Note, however, that you may not be able to edit out commercials or anything else (such as station promos). It depends on the machine and the format. And that's one of the advantages of a hard drive -- you record the three programs, do all your editing, order them the way you want, and burn them to disc.

    M.
     
  19. Stacey

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    Also the beauty of the Hard Drive is that once you've recoded your shows and edited the commercials, you can get more shows on the disc compared with the burn to disc only (unless you feel up to babysitting the machine and pausing for commercials and guessing when the show will come back on to unpause...too much work in my eyes).



    Hard Drive??? YES! [​IMG]
     
  20. Elizabeth S

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    I also feel more secure recording to the hard drive just in case you happen to have a faulty DVD-R, -RW, etc. The hard drive also just makes it a lot easier to view everything -- no scrambling around looking for which disc it's on.
     

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