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How do the moderators feel about cursing on this site?

Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by KeithH, Nov 7, 2001.

  1. KeithH

    KeithH Lead Actor

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    Is cursing allowed here? I wouldn't think so, but I do see it occasionally. I've even seen one Moderator here curse on more than one occasion. My feeling is that potty mouths don't belong. Here is a thread that prompted my post:
    http://www.hometheaterforum.com/uub/...ML/005844.html
    Note the second post in the thread. I don't think this is appropriate. It's the newsgroup mentality creeping into the HTF.
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  2. Parker Clack

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    Keith:
    Cursing is discouraged but not banned. The site IS rated for adult content. Works like f*** and s***, etc. should be used sparingly and even then using they what I have used here.
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  3. Tom-G

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    Parker, has anyone ever been banned for excessive cursing (not directed towards another member)? I wasn't aware that cursing was discouraged. I always presumed that as long as they aren't used in the topic header, it's acceptable.
    Curse words don't bother me--they are just words--but I realize that some people may be offended by them, therefore I try not to use them in excess.
    Just want to make sure where we stand in regards this policy.
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  4. Ronald Epstein

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    Tom,
    If I may answer....
    Yes, I have personally banned a few members
    over the past 4 years for cursing. However,
    they were all instances where either the profanity
    was being abused, or, the profanity was being
    used towards another member or person.
    As Parker stated, this site is rated for adult
    content. We allow profanity only because we want
    adults to feel free to express themselves in a strong
    manner when needed. I say this with caution, because
    we certainly do not want people talking like
    sailors here.
    We generally allow profanity under these circumstances:
    1. Profanity is not used towards any member of
    this forum, person or studio. (Someone once posted
    "F*CK Steven Spielberg" and was removed).
    2. Profanity not be used for the sake of cursing.
    A long string of curse words in a post is not
    permitted.
    If Parker can think of any other conditions, I am
    sure he will post them.
    Basically, this is a no-brainer. People should
    not take advantage of the freedom we allow here.
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  5. Rob Gillespie

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    Profanity of any level in topic titles is a complete no-no. Words like 'suck' will be edited by one of us if we spot it.
     
  6. KeithH

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    Parker, Ron, and Rob, thanks for the input and clarification. I would much rather see people write [email protected] than the actual word, but as long as they are not breaking any rules in typing curse words in their entirety, then I can accept it.
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  7. RicP

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  8. Reginald Trent

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    Words have power, the impact varies with the person recieving it. This forum is comprised of some of the most erudite, intelligent and articulate people on the net. This forum strives to be respectful and intelligent while it informs. I'm no prude and this is solely my opinion but I believe the use of profanity is beneath the level of this forum.
    It would be sorta like Albert Einstein swearing to get his point across. Why would that be necessary?
    I know there will be people that state they use profanity because they want to. Fine, but would you use profanity around your boss and peers at work? If so, would they respect you the same? More? or Less? And can't you make the same point with as much impact without profanity?
    [Edited last by Reginald Trent on November 08, 2001 at 07:54 PM]
     
  9. Joel Mack

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    Keith,
    You've been around long enough to amass 3600 posts and this is the first you've seen an F-bomb dropped? Nice work, my friend. [​IMG]
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  10. RicP

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    quote: Words have power, the impact varies with the person recieving it.[/quote] I agree for the most part. Words by themselves have no power at all, they are just words, that's all. The impact that a word has on every person is different, that I agree with -- and that's what my point was, it's the impression, not the word. In that case using [email protected] rather than the actual word would have little effect, because the intent is still there. Choosing another word is a better option and one I think is a more reasonable choice than simply masquerading a word with a symbol, which does nothing to hide what the intent of the poster was.
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  11. Patrick Sun

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    Sometimes when you are quoting lines from a film, it's best that it's verbatim, though I'm sure there are some choice words that are best left alluded to with vowel replacement symbols instead of truly spelling them out (2 words immediately come to mind).
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    Ric, even though you're a freakin' (is that still allowed?)
    Yankee fan, I'm gonna go with you on this one. Since we are adults here, we should take whatever the people say with a grain of salt. If the person continually uses such language then the impact of it will diminish. Every once in awhile, I don't see a problem with it and in the case of the aforementioned thread, that's a bit too sensitive. If he said "What the hell" or "What the heck", it wouldn't have offended you, right?
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  13. TheoGB

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    I do my best to avoid swearing on this forum because I am never sure if I might get kicked off, and out of respect for the many people here who probably don't like swearing. Personally I swear a lot in my life and find comments like:
    quote: I know there will be people that state they use profanity because they want to. Fine, but would you use profanity around your boss and peers at work? If so, would they respect you the same? More? or Less? And can't you make the same point with as much impact without profanity?[/quote]
    a little blinkered. I have been brought up in London and you'd be hard pressed to find a mid-20's guy wandering around the city for whom swearing wasn't natural. And yes we do swear at work and people don't respect us any less.
    I often find it odd how sensitive people can be over language, to the point where ITV have shown Leathal Weapon uncut for violence but with the language dubbed to be inoffensive. I consider this ludicrous but I am obviously in the minorty because people complain more about language.
    For what it's worth I see no difference between [email protected] or the work it represents. Where does that leave feck, incidentally?
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  14. Patrick Sun

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  15. TheoGB

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    Whoops!
    FWIW, I have a very liberal mother and if I spoke around here like I do with my mum it would still upset some people.
    Favoured expressions of hers when I was a nipper were '[email protected]' and 'S#it-a-brick'. [​IMG]
     
  16. Tom-G

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    You could look at it this way too: when you are speaking to one of your friends in a public place e.g. the mall, do you curse in your conversation without regard to who else other than your friend is around you?
    I'm very conscious of not swearing when in public. I realize that people are sensitive to it and there may be parents with their children.
    It's a matter of courtesy.
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  17. Reginald Trent

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    Good point and that's what I was trying to point out. HTF is a highly respected widely read site. It is read by many influential people in the movie biz. Given that fact I believe it is important that members comport themselves accordingly. And swearing detracts from that.
     
  18. Rob Gillespie

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    I think realistically all we can do is ensure people don't go overboard with profanity. I mean, I've seen people use words like f*** and s*** in Studio Feedback where they're trying to get a response from a studio rep? Yeah, like that's gonna work.
    If members take offense at occassional profanity then, well... sorry. We can be all things to all people.
     
  19. brentl

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    It appears that if used in context, or to stress a point it is OK!! It should not be used as a common expression!
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  20. Jack Briggs

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    I think there's an excellent balance vis. this issue at HTF. Further, I don't think asterisks are really necessary. As long as one keeps such verbiage within reason, there shouldn't be a damn problem. Heck. Shucks. Gosh darn it. Crap.
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