\Very helpful John. You are letting your anger with me regarding my eschewing amps affect other conversations.Read the thread.
What they are missing is low end. You simply can't get good bottom with a pair of 3-4" monitors. Even the 5"s have their limits but have been sufficient for me to avoid adding a sub. The 8" are great but I still think a dedicated 10" sib would provide more gut punch.Sam/John, we're all talking about the same thing. I think I'm getting tangled up in the low to mid-range DAC market that it seems everyone "needs"
they sounded great, but I felt I was missing something... hence the question about a DAC or sub.
What did you end up doing? The amp I use on my main work computer was dying, so I got that Topping one I linked early on. It's a nice little DAC/amp. It sounds better than the one it replaced, and it has a nice feature where it automatically turns off when there's no signal for 2 minutes. I might get one for home to play around with, since it has a sub output and I have a spare powered sub that's not being used.In the meantime, I picked up a little usb-c dongle for 3.5mm that obviously has a dac chip. Using the Apple Audio Midi Setup, I have it set for up to 24b/96k -- at the same time I noticed I could also set the internal 3.5mm out for the same rates. However, just listening with headphones, the dongle is way better.