1. We suffered a brief outage this morning when our host noticed that HTF needed to be moved to a different server due to a hardware failure. That work is now complete. Please post in the feedback area if you have any issues.
    Dismiss Notice

Hero: I bet that you wouldn't like to miss it!

Discussion in 'Movies' started by Yumi, Apr 26, 2003.

  1. Yumi

    Yumi Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2003
    Messages:
    69
    Likes Received:
    0
  2. Tim RH

    Tim RH Second Unit

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2001
    Messages:
    375
    Likes Received:
    0
    Yes, it is a great movie, for anyone who hasn't seen it yet. I loved the use of colors and all the actors are very-well cast (especially Tony Leung Chiu Wai and Maggie Cheung Man-yuk). I wish Donnie Yen and Ziyi Zhang had more to do in the movie, but oh well... I hope the Director's Cut (which is supposed to be released soon) will be even better!

    Yumi, did you see HERO on the big screen? What was it like? I've only gotten to see it on imported DVD, though we should get it here in theatres later this year.
     
  3. Chris_Morris

    Chris_Morris Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2002
    Messages:
    1,887
    Likes Received:
    0
    My import should be here within the week, can't wait to see it.

     
  4. ThomasC

    ThomasC Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2001
    Messages:
    6,526
    Likes Received:
    0
    Chris, why would they dub it? Shall We Dance was in its original language, why should Hero be any different? Is it because Hero focuses more on visuals?
     
  5. Yumi

    Yumi Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2003
    Messages:
    69
    Likes Received:
    0
    [SIZE=no]
     
  6. Yumi

    Yumi Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2003
    Messages:
    69
    Likes Received:
    0
    [SIZE=no]
     
  7. Chris_Morris

    Chris_Morris Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2002
    Messages:
    1,887
    Likes Received:
    0
     
  8. Yumi

    Yumi Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2003
    Messages:
    69
    Likes Received:
    0
  9. Yumi

    Yumi Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2003
    Messages:
    69
    Likes Received:
    0
  10. Bruce Hedtke

    Bruce Hedtke Cinematographer

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 1999
    Messages:
    2,249
    Likes Received:
    0
    If it's only available here in a dubbed version, I won't see it until the DVD release. But then, where I live, I doubt I'd get a chance to see it on the big screen anyways...though it has been getting much better around here. That being said, if the film were to show here, undubbed, I would definitely be there.

    Bruce
     
  11. Claire Panke

    Claire Panke Second Unit

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2002
    Messages:
    409
    Likes Received:
    0
    Most of the Asian "art house" films I've seen in theaters have *not* been dubbed, Miramax released or not.

    Animated films and anime, of course, are another story.

    Although it's no comfort, and I loathe cutting and dubbing, Harvey Scissorhands treats his English language films no kinder when it comes to editing for theatrical release. Many have gone under the knife before being seen by American audiences. Sometimes, like Restoration, the films are exiled to the shelf for months or years. For all Harvey's meddling, the fourth act of this films remained jumbled. Gony is another high profile example, more recent example of Weinstein's exerting control.

    Still, Miramax is distributing and producing interesting, worthwhile films. No other studio would've taken on GONY.
     
  12. Chris_Morris

    Chris_Morris Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2002
    Messages:
    1,887
    Likes Received:
    0
    The Alliance site is back up now. Here is a list of Disney owned films that have been released, most of which dubbed, re-scored, and cut, the actual site has links to descriptions for some of them:

    Released Films

    Armour of God (aka Operation Condor II: The Armour of God)
    Armour of God II: Operation Condor (aka Operation Condor)
    Bodyguard From Beijing (aka The Defender)
    Chungking Express
    City On Fire
    Crime Story
    Drunken Master II (aka Legend of the Drunken Master)
    Farewell My Concubine
    Fist of Legend
    Fong Sai Yuk (aka The Legend)
    Fong Sai Yuk II (aka The Legend II)
    Heroic Trio
    Iron Monkey
    My Father Is A Hero (aka The Enforcer)
    Police Story III: Supercop (aka Supercop)
    Project A
    Project S (aka Supercop 2)
    Swordsman 2 (aka Legend of the Swordsman)
    Tai Chi Master (aka Twin Warriors)
    The Master
    Twin Dragons

    These are Disney owned, unreleased films of which the only one I know for sure of is Shaolin Soccer which at the least has been dubbed and re-scored:


    Unreleased Films

    Bullet In The Head
    Chinese Ghost Story
    Chinese Gost Story II
    Chinese Ghost Story III
    Dream Lovers
    Dragon Lord
    Dragons Forever
    Easy Money
    Executioners
    Fighters Blues, A
    Flaming Brothers
    God of Gamblers
    God of Gamblers' Return
    Handsome Siblings
    Hard Boiled
    Hero
    Killer, The
    Last Hero In China
    Legend Of Zu
    Peking Opera Blues
    Prison On Fire
    Prison On Fire II
    Purple Storm
    Shaolin Soccer
    Shaolin Temple 2: Kids From Shaolin
    Swordsman
    Tiger Cage
    Tiger On Beat
    Touch, The
    Triads: The Inside Story
    Twinkle Twinkle Lucky Stars
    Wonder Seven
    Yes, Madam
    Zu: Warriors From The Magic Mountain


    I am holding out hope on Hero, but if you look at some of the non-sense changes made to these films (adding a rap soundtrack to some, changing dialogue that actually changes the storyline, etc.), I'm trying not to get my hopes up too high. Http://www.loveandbullets.com also has reviews of many films, and notes the changes where it can.


    Chris
     
  13. Jefferson Morris

    Jefferson Morris Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2000
    Messages:
    823
    Likes Received:
    0
    I got this on import DVD from a stateside retailer within the last couple of weeks, and thought it was excellent (first time I've ever bought a film sight-unseen). It's the shortened (~100 minute) version, with DTS, code-free, and no dubbed track. A pretty good-looking disc of an amazing-looking feature.

    Provided they don't dub the theatrical release in November, I may go ahead and see it in a theater, just to have the big-screen experience. I doubt I'll be buying whatever Disney/Miramax decides to release on disc over here, unless by some miracle it's the extended version of the film with its original language track, or has some really outstanding supplements.

    --Jefferson Morris
     

Share This Page