Help with line conditioners...

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  1. Gregg Loewen

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    Ive been looking for a nicer line conditioner. Specifically the Monster 5000 which can be had via Ebay for around $347. Should I be considering any other options??
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    I love mine!
    No troubles as of yet with it. I had a Playstation memory card go south on me while plugged into it during a spike, but I also don't have it plugged into a properly grounded Outlet-my fault.
    The other places I've had this power conditioner connected, to a good outlet, I've had no damage during spikes or outages.
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    I would look at a true 20 amp surge protector with no power limiting circuitry due to your use of power amps (they suck as much power as they can to fill their "reservoirs"). Make sure you have a free and clear 20 amp circuit, 20 amp wall outlet and at least 12 gauge electrical conduit to the outlet in order to get the maximum benefit.
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    Dan,
    You bring up a good point. I will have my amps plugged into its own 30 amp circuit and the run is with 12 guage wire. How do I figure out if the the Monster 5000 (or another) will be able to have enough umph to keep my amps going??
    For the record: I have sold my Peavey 1300 WPC amp, and I will be demoing some QSC stuff. I will have 5 amps connected:
    DCA 1622 for the mains (350 WPC 8 ohms)
    DCA 1222 x 3 for the surrounds and center (215 WPC 8 ohms)
    DCA 2422 for my subs (1200 WPC 2 ohms)
    In addition, Id like my preamp, TV, DVD player, etc, also connected.
    This hobby gets more and more confusing (as well as expensive)
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    Check out the TrippLite models - I have one hooked up to my home theater 1st and then a Monster HTS3500 running from that for all my system components. The advantage of the TrippLite models is that they will (as best they can) maintain level voltages as well as protect from spikes, interference etc. My 3500 has a voltmeter on the front and everytime my ac/heat would kick on I'd see a noticable drop in line voltage to my system. That's gone now with running it thru a TrippLite...
     
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    Panamax has a new one out called the A/C Regenerator. Richard Gray's Power Company products have received raves. Tice and API are respected names that have been in the market for ages. In short you have lots of choices. Nice call on the 30A circuit by the way.
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    Gregg, what you need to look at for the Monsters power ability, look at the bottom of the link you gave:
     
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    Dear Henry,
    Thank you for your email. The allowed max wattage is 1800 w. Most amps give peak rating in name ie: 3000 w amp does not put out 3000 watts all the time.
    If equipment is on one 15 amp circuit all equipment will pass through surge protector fine. You should not hear audible difference.
    Should you need anymore information please do not hesitate to email me
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    Take a look at this link on PS Audio's site:
    http://www.psaudio.com/articles/power_conditioners.asp
    They show that the particular Monster unit they looked at, actually *added* distortion to the AC line. This is not particular to Monster. It is an artifact of "all* power conditioners that use filters.
    Now, go look at all the Power Conditioner reviews at www.hometheaterhifi.com:
    http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/maste...ditioners.html
    Balanced is one of the best ways to get clean AC.
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    Gregg, If you have 12 gauge wire with a 30 amp circuit breaker, you risk overheating the wire. 12 gauge needs to protected with nothing larger than a 20 amp breaker. You aren't going to find a receptacle with a rating higher than 20 amps that corresponds to the cords from your equipment, so it's unnessessary to have anything higher than that to feed the receptacle. If your equipment, in fact, draws more than 20 amps, you have potential for a fire hazard there.
     
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    Gary is correct. I just installed 3 dedicated 20 amp circuits using 12 gauge wire for each. While 30 amp is ok, the wiring should be 10 gauge.
    Herb.
    PS... KEVIN....did you eventually go with the Equi=Tech 1.5Q? I haven't done anything yet although when I do I'll be an Audio Power or another Richard Gray 1200.
     
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    Above is the link Mike had posted earlier. Mike, thanks again.
    For those of you that dont know Mike Vanevers, he lives in Florida and makes a variety of line conditioners, custom wires, etc. I had the opportunity to meet this Tweeker in the spring while at a conference in Orlando.
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    Maybe you should check out Panamax. I hear they are pretty good with lifetime warranty and $5,000,000 to back up your gear. I think they are cheaper than the Monster ones too.
     
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    Panamax uses filters just like Monster, Adcom, etc. At least according to the info on PS Audio's site, distortion can be added to the AC line with these things.
    And, Panamax's AC Regenerator isn't an AC Regenerator by any stretch of the imagination. The only true regenerators out there are the PS Audio Power Plants, and ExactPower. And, the 5500 uses "balanced L filtered circuits" or something, yet it doesn't have balanced power either. A little bit of misrepresentation there if you ask me... [​IMG]
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